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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1244884" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I'm claiming that Enlarge Person "changes the creature’s size category to the next larger one", and that "All equipment worn or carried by a creature is similarly enlarged by the spell".</p><p></p><p>I'm claiming that the Weapons section states: "Weight: This column gives the weight of a Medium version of the weapon. Halve this number for Small weapons and double it for Large weapons", and that the armor section states "Weight: This column gives the weight of the armor sized for a Medium wearer. Armor fitted for Small characters weighs half as much, and armor for Large characters weighs twice as much".</p><p></p><p>If I'm a Large character, and my armor fits, it is "armor for Large characters", and weighs twice as much as it did.</p><p></p><p>To interpret the phrase "similarly enlarged" as <em>eight</em> times the weight means that the spell is quite likely to put someone into "overloaded" status, meaning they lose their Dex bonus and can only stagger 5 feet as a full round action... and that turns it into an <em>attack</em> spell - <em>especially</em> in combination with the no-save Ray of Enfeeblement.</p><p></p><p>The spell makes you one size category larger, and enlarges your gear similarly. There are rules for what weapons and armor one size category larger weigh.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that "eight times heavier" is an illegal interpretation... but I <em>am</em> saying that it's not the only interpretation. </p><p></p><p>One way has an Enlarged longsword behaving completely differently to a Large longsword.</p><p></p><p>The other way fits with the current rules for Large weapons and armor, and also fits with the fact that Large creatures have twice the carrying capacity of Medium creatures, so that "similarly enlarged" equipment weighing twice as much results in nearly identical encumbrance.</p><p></p><p>Both can be argued as legal readings of the text. Which makes more sense?</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1244884, member: 1656"] I'm claiming that Enlarge Person "changes the creature’s size category to the next larger one", and that "All equipment worn or carried by a creature is similarly enlarged by the spell". I'm claiming that the Weapons section states: "Weight: This column gives the weight of a Medium version of the weapon. Halve this number for Small weapons and double it for Large weapons", and that the armor section states "Weight: This column gives the weight of the armor sized for a Medium wearer. Armor fitted for Small characters weighs half as much, and armor for Large characters weighs twice as much". If I'm a Large character, and my armor fits, it is "armor for Large characters", and weighs twice as much as it did. To interpret the phrase "similarly enlarged" as [i]eight[/i] times the weight means that the spell is quite likely to put someone into "overloaded" status, meaning they lose their Dex bonus and can only stagger 5 feet as a full round action... and that turns it into an [i]attack[/i] spell - [i]especially[/i] in combination with the no-save Ray of Enfeeblement. The spell makes you one size category larger, and enlarges your gear similarly. There are rules for what weapons and armor one size category larger weigh. I'm not saying that "eight times heavier" is an illegal interpretation... but I [i]am[/i] saying that it's not the only interpretation. One way has an Enlarged longsword behaving completely differently to a Large longsword. The other way fits with the current rules for Large weapons and armor, and also fits with the fact that Large creatures have twice the carrying capacity of Medium creatures, so that "similarly enlarged" equipment weighing twice as much results in nearly identical encumbrance. Both can be argued as legal readings of the text. Which makes more sense? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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