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<blockquote data-quote="Eridanis" data-source="post: 731731" data-attributes="member: 275"><p>I understand what Pramas, Nikchick, FDP Mike, and Orcus (second hand) are saying about WotC's involvement, but the fact is, they built the court we're all playing on. I think that gives them the right to an automatic seed in the tournament, as it were. (And I'm not convinced that they will sweep all the awards again this year, especially with one public ceremony, well publisized, under our belts, and people having better sense of what the awards are aiming for. There are too many good products out there for that, IMO.)</p><p></p><p>I don't like a Judge's Choice award (Wulf's exact comment sprung to mind as soon as I read about it), but if there is to be one, the best form I think it might take would be a kind of "Honorary Mention" Award. Here's how it could work. Morrus will know the results of the voting long before the awards ceremony. Once the voting is concluded, Morrus can go back to the judges, say, "Here are the winners of each category. Now take the four products in each catagory that didn't win, put them in a pile, and decide which of these products is the best, in your opinion." That would be the Judge's Award winner - recognizing a product that didn't win any awards, but was still good enough to be recognized as being apart from the pack.</p><p></p><p>I also like the "count 'em down" compromise Morrus suggested. If a publisher wants to put "came in second place in the 2003 ENnie award for Best Module", then they can, or they can just say, "2003 ENnie Nominee for Best Module." Or whatever. A medals system for only five nominees is overkill.</p><p></p><p>OGL award: good idea.</p><p></p><p>Writer's Award: Interesting idea, but now, how do you choose which freelancers will be the committee? A system that doesn't feel liek a popularity contest would have to be devised.</p><p></p><p>Of course, if things don't work out the ENworld's satisfaction this year (i.e. a WotC sweep that's perceived as undeserved), they can always be modified by implementing a voting system like Aaron described. It's a growing process, and each year brings new insight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eridanis, post: 731731, member: 275"] I understand what Pramas, Nikchick, FDP Mike, and Orcus (second hand) are saying about WotC's involvement, but the fact is, they built the court we're all playing on. I think that gives them the right to an automatic seed in the tournament, as it were. (And I'm not convinced that they will sweep all the awards again this year, especially with one public ceremony, well publisized, under our belts, and people having better sense of what the awards are aiming for. There are too many good products out there for that, IMO.) I don't like a Judge's Choice award (Wulf's exact comment sprung to mind as soon as I read about it), but if there is to be one, the best form I think it might take would be a kind of "Honorary Mention" Award. Here's how it could work. Morrus will know the results of the voting long before the awards ceremony. Once the voting is concluded, Morrus can go back to the judges, say, "Here are the winners of each category. Now take the four products in each catagory that didn't win, put them in a pile, and decide which of these products is the best, in your opinion." That would be the Judge's Award winner - recognizing a product that didn't win any awards, but was still good enough to be recognized as being apart from the pack. I also like the "count 'em down" compromise Morrus suggested. If a publisher wants to put "came in second place in the 2003 ENnie award for Best Module", then they can, or they can just say, "2003 ENnie Nominee for Best Module." Or whatever. A medals system for only five nominees is overkill. OGL award: good idea. Writer's Award: Interesting idea, but now, how do you choose which freelancers will be the committee? A system that doesn't feel liek a popularity contest would have to be devised. Of course, if things don't work out the ENworld's satisfaction this year (i.e. a WotC sweep that's perceived as undeserved), they can always be modified by implementing a voting system like Aaron described. It's a growing process, and each year brings new insight. [/QUOTE]
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