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<blockquote data-quote="Rasyr" data-source="post: 2059138" data-attributes="member: 2855"><p>I think I will sneak in a comment...</p><p></p><p>The way I see it (with my limited understanding)</p><p>The Approval Voting system woulld/could pick multiple winner through a straight percentage of how many votes a products got from the total number of votes cast. However, if there is a tie, or you are wanting a minimum percentage of votes for the front-runner to be declared a winner, this system does not support that very well.</p><p></p><p>With the Instant Run-off Voting, it appears that this would work much much better, and can deal with requiring a minimum percentage for a win (within certain limits). If I am understanding it properly. It would work as follows....</p><p></p><p>Take the following example of 6 books with 600 people voting. Each voter ranks the products from 1 - 5 (with a possible null vote as well). And say we end up with a table that looks like the following:[code]</p><p>[b]Product Total votes for first [/b]</p><p>Book 1 175 </p><p>Book 2 150 </p><p>Book 3 100 </p><p>Book 4 75 </p><p>Book 5 60 </p><p>Book 6 40 </p><p>[/code]</p><p>In the above example, there is no winner (because none got over 50%). So Book 6 would be dropped, and the 40 votes that went to Book 6 would be redistributed among those according to their second choice. (these second choices are now considered first choices, and the third choice is now considered second) This would then give us the followling:[code]</p><p>[b]Product Total votes for first [/b]</p><p>Book 1 180 </p><p>Book 2 175 </p><p>Book 3 100 </p><p>Book 4 85 </p><p>Book 5 60 </p><p>[/code]</p><p> Still no winners (over 50%), So we now drop Book 5 and redistribute those 60 votes according to what they had ranked as their next choice.[code]</p><p>[b]Product Total votes for first [/b]</p><p>Book 1 190 </p><p>Book 2 200 </p><p>Book 3 110 </p><p>Book 4 100 </p><p>[/code]</p><p>Still no majority, so we rinse and repeat.[code]</p><p>[b]Product Total votes for first [/b]</p><p>Book 1 210 </p><p>Book 2 240 </p><p>Book 3 150 </p><p>[/code]</p><p>Still nobody with a 50% majority, so we now drop Book 3 and try again after redistributing those 150 votes accoriding to their next choice.[code]</p><p>[b]Product Total votes for first [/b]</p><p>Book 1 295 </p><p>Book 2 305 </p><p>[/code]</p><p>And book 2 is the winner.. Now, IF there were a tie, then my suggestion would be to go back to the original vote and the one with the largest number of original 1st votes would be the winner (i.e. Book 1 IF it had been a tie).</p><p></p><p>I pretty much ignored the nulls that may have been in there (from folks who voted a null because they did not know the product).</p><p></p><p>I hope that helps Dextra. As to implementing it.... Ask Mr. Morrus. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rasyr, post: 2059138, member: 2855"] I think I will sneak in a comment... The way I see it (with my limited understanding) The Approval Voting system woulld/could pick multiple winner through a straight percentage of how many votes a products got from the total number of votes cast. However, if there is a tie, or you are wanting a minimum percentage of votes for the front-runner to be declared a winner, this system does not support that very well. With the Instant Run-off Voting, it appears that this would work much much better, and can deal with requiring a minimum percentage for a win (within certain limits). If I am understanding it properly. It would work as follows.... Take the following example of 6 books with 600 people voting. Each voter ranks the products from 1 - 5 (with a possible null vote as well). And say we end up with a table that looks like the following:[code] [b]Product Total votes for first [/b] Book 1 175 Book 2 150 Book 3 100 Book 4 75 Book 5 60 Book 6 40 [/code] In the above example, there is no winner (because none got over 50%). So Book 6 would be dropped, and the 40 votes that went to Book 6 would be redistributed among those according to their second choice. (these second choices are now considered first choices, and the third choice is now considered second) This would then give us the followling:[code] [b]Product Total votes for first [/b] Book 1 180 Book 2 175 Book 3 100 Book 4 85 Book 5 60 [/code] Still no winners (over 50%), So we now drop Book 5 and redistribute those 60 votes according to what they had ranked as their next choice.[code] [b]Product Total votes for first [/b] Book 1 190 Book 2 200 Book 3 110 Book 4 100 [/code] Still no majority, so we rinse and repeat.[code] [b]Product Total votes for first [/b] Book 1 210 Book 2 240 Book 3 150 [/code] Still nobody with a 50% majority, so we now drop Book 3 and try again after redistributing those 150 votes accoriding to their next choice.[code] [b]Product Total votes for first [/b] Book 1 295 Book 2 305 [/code] And book 2 is the winner.. Now, IF there were a tie, then my suggestion would be to go back to the original vote and the one with the largest number of original 1st votes would be the winner (i.e. Book 1 IF it had been a tie). I pretty much ignored the nulls that may have been in there (from folks who voted a null because they did not know the product). I hope that helps Dextra. As to implementing it.... Ask Mr. Morrus. :D [/QUOTE]
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