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<blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 2061666" data-attributes="member: 1264"><p>I have some real-world deadlines coming up, so let me try and be brief (heh! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p></p><p>1) Definition of Approval Voting: I'm using the term the way i have seen it used in the vast majority of online sources on electoral systems (have a look at Google... I have yet to find any *other* definition), several textbooks, and every mathematician with formal training in voting theory I've personally talked to.</p><p></p><p>2) I have no idea where fusangite gets the impression that Approval Voting is only espoused by a small sect of political advocates. It's been a widely used idea that has been around for over 30 years now. Sure, there are some grousp that are trying to get it adopted. The same can be said of the "Center for Voting and Democracy" fusangite refers to - which is an advocacy group for IRV run by independent presidential candidate John B. Anderson.</p><p></p><p>3) IRV suffers from some well-known theoretical flaws, such as:</p><p> - non-monotonicity: voting for your favorite can actually make him lose</p><p> - IRV may not pick the Condorcet winner (i.e. one that would win against every other candiate in one-on-on race)</p><p>see e.g. exercise 3 and 4 on <a href="http://www.ctl.ua.edu/math103/Voting/exvotfr.htm" target="_blank">this page</a> (IRV is called "Plurality with Elimination" in this one)</p><p></p><p>4) IRV as described is severely biased against "don't know" votes, something I believe we were trying to avoid</p><p></p><p>5) Just a little quote from the <a href="http://bcn.boulder.co.us/government/approvalvote/" target="_blank">Approval Voting Home Page</a>:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Conaill, post: 2061666, member: 1264"] I have some real-world deadlines coming up, so let me try and be brief (heh! :)) 1) Definition of Approval Voting: I'm using the term the way i have seen it used in the vast majority of online sources on electoral systems (have a look at Google... I have yet to find any *other* definition), several textbooks, and every mathematician with formal training in voting theory I've personally talked to. 2) I have no idea where fusangite gets the impression that Approval Voting is only espoused by a small sect of political advocates. It's been a widely used idea that has been around for over 30 years now. Sure, there are some grousp that are trying to get it adopted. The same can be said of the "Center for Voting and Democracy" fusangite refers to - which is an advocacy group for IRV run by independent presidential candidate John B. Anderson. 3) IRV suffers from some well-known theoretical flaws, such as: - non-monotonicity: voting for your favorite can actually make him lose - IRV may not pick the Condorcet winner (i.e. one that would win against every other candiate in one-on-on race) see e.g. exercise 3 and 4 on [url=http://www.ctl.ua.edu/math103/Voting/exvotfr.htm]this page[/url] (IRV is called "Plurality with Elimination" in this one) 4) IRV as described is severely biased against "don't know" votes, something I believe we were trying to avoid 5) Just a little quote from the [url=http://bcn.boulder.co.us/government/approvalvote/]Approval Voting Home Page[/url]: [/QUOTE]
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