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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2063390" data-attributes="member: 177">Heh.&nbsp; To death?&nbsp; Heck, we haven't debated this one to a mild wounding yet <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />There is somevalue to such debate, if only to the debaters in flexing their rhetorical muscles.&nbsp; And, the folks who actually make the decisions get to see some of the strengths and weaknesses of each sytem before they make their decision.Also, in the past the Ennies have caught a bit of criticism on a number of factors.&nbsp; I think it is a good thing to show that we at least take the awards seriously enough to give our methods scrutiny.Perhaps not, Wulf, which is part of the point.Straight majority vote and Approval Voting both have a notable weakness - they have no mechanism to look for consensus if it doesn't appear in the first balloting.&nbsp; You can get stuck with a &quot;winner&quot; that only 30% or 40% of the respondants voted for.&nbsp; Some folks find that acceptable.&nbsp; For fan awards, I think it'd be nice if we put a bit of effort into digging deeper into the opinions of the voters.&nbsp; Especially when in the past the number of ballots cast hasn't been particularly high.Funny thing that - if I don't want something to win, I don't vote for it!&nbsp; What a novel idea! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This point holds both for AV and IRV, so it really doesn't differentiate between the two systems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 2063390, member: 177"] Heh. To death? Heck, we haven't debated this one to a mild wounding yet :) There is somevalue to such debate, if only to the debaters in flexing their rhetorical muscles. And, the folks who actually make the decisions get to see some of the strengths and weaknesses of each sytem before they make their decision. Also, in the past the Ennies have caught a bit of criticism on a number of factors. I think it is a good thing to show that we at least take the awards seriously enough to give our methods scrutiny. Perhaps not, Wulf, which is part of the point. Straight majority vote and Approval Voting both have a notable weakness - they have no mechanism to look for consensus if it doesn't appear in the first balloting. You can get stuck with a "winner" that only 30% or 40% of the respondants voted for. Some folks find that acceptable. For fan awards, I think it'd be nice if we put a bit of effort into digging deeper into the opinions of the voters. Especially when in the past the number of ballots cast hasn't been particularly high. Funny thing that - if I don't want something to win, I don't vote for it! What a novel idea! :) This point holds both for AV and IRV, so it really doesn't differentiate between the two systems. [/QUOTE]

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