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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2064478" data-attributes="member: 7240">Sorry if I have failed to do this but this has been my intention all along. This is why Umbran and I have continued to stress the need to tailor the system to the situation. FWIW, I don't support IRV for the election of members of parliament or legislatures. Thanks for distilling my entire agenda into one sentence. Much appreciated.And I would support it if this were a poll rather than a competitive election. However, in elections, people behave differently than they do when responding to random market research telephone polls. The two situations are sufficiently dissimilar that one cannot import methods wholesale from one into another. McDonald's, for instance, doesn't try to "win" Burger King's market research polls nor does Burger King try to "win" McDonald's market research polls. In the ENNies, different publishers actually are trying to win, in part because, unlike market research polling, there is something to win. Furthermore, nobody has ever observed strategic voting in operation in polling; if this were to start to become a problem, market research companies would, rest assured, change their methodologies. This is because when someone answers a poll question, they can be sure that their response will not determine the outcome of the election. With the ENNies, people can be 100% sure that their vote will (even though some of mine didn't last year, evidently). Now, if you wanted to do market research about popular RPG products and give out awards on that basis, last year's voting procedure would work perfectly well provided it was not conducted online in the presence of the actual campaign. You could just phone randomly selected gamers all over the world and ask them a series of questions. Most of the gamers you would contact would be unaware of the ENNies and unaware of any of the campaigns by third party publishers to win awards. The problem here is an increasingly common one in this day and age: the confusion of democracy with demography. And we again return to the question of what is the voting system being used for. Finally, I would hazard a guess that the ENNies are likely the only remotely legitimate awards that have been handed out after the judging community has undergone "data cleansing."Yes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> And I apologize for sounding quite so irate this morning. I appreciate you consulting with the voters about the procedure. I think Umbran was really onto something when he suggested that more than looking at what voting/ranking/polling systems are used for politics, marketing or in other fields, we should direct our attention to the voting systems that other annual awards use.</blockquote>

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