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<blockquote data-quote="Art Waring" data-source="post: 9579505" data-attributes="member: 7037141"><p>I agree that machine learning won't be going away, but that pre-existed gen-ai, and actually has different applications for practical use than something that was made using an LLM. My point is that the "free" model of ai image generstion has already peaked (IMHO), they are burning billions every year and have yet to achieve any kind of profitability. Either they end the free use models, replaced by a paid subscription (which was always the plan for folks like Midjourney), or make them completely unuseable for the public by putting in heavy guardrails to try and prevent copyright infringements (look at the new SD).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am sorry but that is not actually specific, I mean actual links to actual tech in use today, and how exactly they are using gen-ai and not just being lumped under the "ai" buzzword to get more funding based on hype. The point is that these are all disctintly different things, and lumping them all together doesn't actually allow for a detailed analysis.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dude, this is exactly what they were saying in the 2010's about "big data," which was the hyped up thing that big tech was evangelizing before they moved onto gen-ai. "We just need more and more data, eventually it will solve something."</p><p></p><p>Go look at the MIT research institute and their vast body of knowledge regarding gen-ai, they are saying that companies will run out of training data by 2026, where exactly are they going to find this "vast data" when they have already stolen everything on the internet??? After stealing everything they can, they still can't get GPT to tell you exactly how many "R's" are in the word strawberry. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, how is this any different than Wotc or Paizo banning gen-ai content from their publications? Does wotc have some fool-proof method of detecting gen-ai or evaluating artists? NO, nobody does, this is the best they can do given their limited time and resources. If the biggest multi-billion dollar corporation in the industry doesn't have the answers, then how do you expect Enworld to?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, social media tends to treat people as guilty until proven innocent without any evidence, but that is social media in a nutshell (especially now that they are removing fact-cheching). However, can you show me any fallout on social media for that particular artist now that their name has been cleared? Becuase from what i can see, the accuser is the one that recieved backlash for the false accusations, while the artist still has their job.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Art Waring, post: 9579505, member: 7037141"] I agree that machine learning won't be going away, but that pre-existed gen-ai, and actually has different applications for practical use than something that was made using an LLM. My point is that the "free" model of ai image generstion has already peaked (IMHO), they are burning billions every year and have yet to achieve any kind of profitability. Either they end the free use models, replaced by a paid subscription (which was always the plan for folks like Midjourney), or make them completely unuseable for the public by putting in heavy guardrails to try and prevent copyright infringements (look at the new SD). I am sorry but that is not actually specific, I mean actual links to actual tech in use today, and how exactly they are using gen-ai and not just being lumped under the "ai" buzzword to get more funding based on hype. The point is that these are all disctintly different things, and lumping them all together doesn't actually allow for a detailed analysis. Dude, this is exactly what they were saying in the 2010's about "big data," which was the hyped up thing that big tech was evangelizing before they moved onto gen-ai. "We just need more and more data, eventually it will solve something." Go look at the MIT research institute and their vast body of knowledge regarding gen-ai, they are saying that companies will run out of training data by 2026, where exactly are they going to find this "vast data" when they have already stolen everything on the internet??? After stealing everything they can, they still can't get GPT to tell you exactly how many "R's" are in the word strawberry. Well, how is this any different than Wotc or Paizo banning gen-ai content from their publications? Does wotc have some fool-proof method of detecting gen-ai or evaluating artists? NO, nobody does, this is the best they can do given their limited time and resources. If the biggest multi-billion dollar corporation in the industry doesn't have the answers, then how do you expect Enworld to? I agree, social media tends to treat people as guilty until proven innocent without any evidence, but that is social media in a nutshell (especially now that they are removing fact-cheching). However, can you show me any fallout on social media for that particular artist now that their name has been cleared? Becuase from what i can see, the accuser is the one that recieved backlash for the false accusations, while the artist still has their job. [/QUOTE]
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