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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1724536" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>I don't think this would be that much of a problem, if they simply sat it out. They're right - compared to WotC's sales figures, EVERYBODY is "small press" (including Steve Jackson and White Wolf, as big as they are). </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Actually, I would instead say that it's not their marketing budget - it's that very network externalities that makes d20 STL work for them that also puts up a wall between them and any other d20 system/OGL publisher.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would say the submission of products until individual names is not a good solution, specifically for the reasons Ari (Mouseferatu) and myself gave - the whole "credit where credit is due" issue. And it would be REALLY weird to list everybody who worked on a product - but NOT mention who made it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>If they volunteered to kick in a small contributory funding for it ($300-$500 a year?) in reciprocation for them being mentioned as a sponsor in addition to Gencon, or some such, that would be excellent - but if they don't, I don't think it will affect the status of the awards. There are a heck of a lot of artists, editors, and designers out there working hard, and to not be overshadowed by WotC is a more admirable goal than striving for WotC's inclusion.</p><p></p><p>I don't feel badly for people at WotC like (freelancer) Keith, or James W., or Darrin D, or Bill Slavicsek; I feel for the artists and editors who work for WotC who are probably more unsung than the artists and editors for most d20 publishers! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 1724536, member: 158"] I don't think this would be that much of a problem, if they simply sat it out. They're right - compared to WotC's sales figures, EVERYBODY is "small press" (including Steve Jackson and White Wolf, as big as they are). Actually, I would instead say that it's not their marketing budget - it's that very network externalities that makes d20 STL work for them that also puts up a wall between them and any other d20 system/OGL publisher. I would say the submission of products until individual names is not a good solution, specifically for the reasons Ari (Mouseferatu) and myself gave - the whole "credit where credit is due" issue. And it would be REALLY weird to list everybody who worked on a product - but NOT mention who made it. :confused: If they volunteered to kick in a small contributory funding for it ($300-$500 a year?) in reciprocation for them being mentioned as a sponsor in addition to Gencon, or some such, that would be excellent - but if they don't, I don't think it will affect the status of the awards. There are a heck of a lot of artists, editors, and designers out there working hard, and to not be overshadowed by WotC is a more admirable goal than striving for WotC's inclusion. I don't feel badly for people at WotC like (freelancer) Keith, or James W., or Darrin D, or Bill Slavicsek; I feel for the artists and editors who work for WotC who are probably more unsung than the artists and editors for most d20 publishers! :) [/QUOTE]
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