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<blockquote data-quote="AaronLoeb" data-source="post: 1725260" data-attributes="member: 4382"><p>NERD POWER!!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, cool! I had thought approval voting was simply that you give one point to every candidate you like and you add up the points -- highest point-getter wins. I will read the link you've provided! Thank you!</p><p></p><p>Edit: Okay, read through it... It looks like it's a sytem that's good for 3rd-party candidates, but my concern was valid. You add up everyone's votes equally. One may think that three products on the nominee list are good, but really wants the one his friend wrote to win -- so it's to his advantage to only vote for his friend's product and not vote for the others. I.e. it encourages cynical voting. Amplify this by "partisan" voting, where people get out the vote from consumers loyal only to them, and you'll have hundreds of ballots with only one product voted for and that one vote not offset by fair-minded votes for other products.</p><p></p><p>With this method, suppose there were three obviously great products on the list and every "normal" EN World voter gave each one approval: a vote. Now each one has about 1000 votes. Now the election will be decided by how many "outliers" there are -- people who vote for only one of the three. However, every system has this problem in one way or the other: the "get out the vote" effort can win the award.</p><p></p><p>The system encourages people to vote for obscure products they think won't win (as it does third-party candidates), meaning it helps with the unfamiliarity problem, but that doesn't mean it isn't gameable. It is still superior to the current system, I think, and is incredibly simple. It also gets rid of any possibility for a "negative" vote, which I think is a very good thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This was an awesome, thoroughly informative post. You are my new king.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AaronLoeb, post: 1725260, member: 4382"] NERD POWER!!!! ;) Oh, cool! I had thought approval voting was simply that you give one point to every candidate you like and you add up the points -- highest point-getter wins. I will read the link you've provided! Thank you! Edit: Okay, read through it... It looks like it's a sytem that's good for 3rd-party candidates, but my concern was valid. You add up everyone's votes equally. One may think that three products on the nominee list are good, but really wants the one his friend wrote to win -- so it's to his advantage to only vote for his friend's product and not vote for the others. I.e. it encourages cynical voting. Amplify this by "partisan" voting, where people get out the vote from consumers loyal only to them, and you'll have hundreds of ballots with only one product voted for and that one vote not offset by fair-minded votes for other products. With this method, suppose there were three obviously great products on the list and every "normal" EN World voter gave each one approval: a vote. Now each one has about 1000 votes. Now the election will be decided by how many "outliers" there are -- people who vote for only one of the three. However, every system has this problem in one way or the other: the "get out the vote" effort can win the award. The system encourages people to vote for obscure products they think won't win (as it does third-party candidates), meaning it helps with the unfamiliarity problem, but that doesn't mean it isn't gameable. It is still superior to the current system, I think, and is incredibly simple. It also gets rid of any possibility for a "negative" vote, which I think is a very good thing. This was an awesome, thoroughly informative post. You are my new king. [/QUOTE]
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