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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 1733780" data-attributes="member: 177">Hm. Okay, here's a problem - you're quoting list prices.&nbsp; The list price includes the cost of the physical item, the publisher's profit, plus significant markups for the distributor and the retailer.&nbsp; It should not cost RPGObjects the full list price to submit the item, unless you're going out and buying it off the shelf to ship to the Ennies.&nbsp; So, perhaps you guys don't quite have an accurate view of how much the Ennies are costing you?&nbsp; Valid criticisms, surely.&nbsp; We cannot fix the fact that the Ennies will generally come well after the life cycle of a product.&nbsp; Sometimes, it is at best a feather in the cap of the company.&nbsp; If you find that few folks are noting that feather, then there is a problem.As has been noted before, the Ennies do need to do a bit of outreach if they want to be more than marginal.&nbsp; Personally, I'd like to see a voting procedure that does as good a job as we can reasonably manage of dealing with the market penetration issue.&nbsp; It would be great if little-known publishers with great products could win.&nbsp; I am a little concerned that there are not enough people voting to manage this, but it bears looking into, I think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 1733780, member: 177"] Hm. Okay, here's a problem - you're quoting list prices. The list price includes the cost of the physical item, the publisher's profit, plus significant markups for the distributor and the retailer. It should not cost RPGObjects the full list price to submit the item, unless you're going out and buying it off the shelf to ship to the Ennies. So, perhaps you guys don't quite have an accurate view of how much the Ennies are costing you? Valid criticisms, surely. We cannot fix the fact that the Ennies will generally come well after the life cycle of a product. Sometimes, it is at best a feather in the cap of the company. If you find that few folks are noting that feather, then there is a problem. As has been noted before, the Ennies do need to do a bit of outreach if they want to be more than marginal. Personally, I'd like to see a voting procedure that does as good a job as we can reasonably manage of dealing with the market penetration issue. It would be great if little-known publishers with great products could win. I am a little concerned that there are not enough people voting to manage this, but it bears looking into, I think. [/QUOTE]

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