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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 1037708" data-attributes="member: 1129">I'm in no way shape or form a publisher and just a fan with a lot of experience with RPGs and some business background. There were some points from a couple of threads made that I'd like to comment on:This statement needs to be clarified a little as it states they were deserving but the competition may have been better. It's one or the other. If it's the other, I think it's important to realize that this is not Peter Adkinson's Award, it's EN Worlds, it's a fan based award. Fans vote on popularity. Very simple concept.Interesting point. If Privateer put Monsternomicon in for Best Monster Supplement, what would they put in for Best Graphic Design? Oh wait, they don't have any other d20 products this year so we should punish them by making a product that is top notch in so many ways, fall to the wayside to numerous inferior products. I don't think that's the way to go.Let's say I'm publisher X. I have okay monster book Y. I see company A putting their product in the monster category. This book is the only book they put out and it's got great interior art, cover art, graphic design and layout. Because it's no longer eligible for those categories, I can take my okay monster book and put it into another category that it really doesn't belong and have sidestepped the competition.I agree not only 100% with Wulf here, but 200%. As I've noted, this isn't some Gen Con sposored award. Peter's not coughing up the dough for these books. WoTC isn't going, "Thanks for the great work, here's some books and some money for your time." This is fan based material. A d20 Publisher who doesn't spend time here, who doesn't build up his 'following' so to speak, is foolish. Monte, Nicole and others all have their own bulletin boards but they stop by here often.Having said that, quality counts. The Monsternomicon was held up as a multiple winner and while I own almost all of the miniatures and d20 products, they don't come around here and post too much outside of some brief updates and information. They have innovation, talent and vision. If you're company doesn't have that, you've got other problems than the Ennies.I can see this being a problem to a point. Having said that, many publishers not only used this voting time to hype their products, but also used it as a sale. Publishers were gaining DIRECT benefits from a fan event.Do publishers who didn't win put on newer products "From the Ennie Nominated Company". Yes they do. Once again, another DIRECT benefit. Whose going to have a 20% off sale for products not nominated during the Ennie period? No one.Now I think that people are giving the Ennies too much power but maybe I'm completely off here.I'd like to see the following:Ennie Mission StatementEnnie Funding Statement: Whose funding these trips to Indianapolis? Morrus wouldn't have even been there this year if the fans didn't pay for him to go. Publishers incur cost? This whole site is a FAN site.Ennie Expectations-From the Ennies StaffEnnie Expectation-From the publishers.There is a lot of power plays going on over something that's at the root, a simple, "We like your products." The reasons why people like those products is more complex and for publishers to want to put more empahsis on their direct benefits, I think they better start to examine what they want out of the Ennies and I think that the fans should know exactly what the Ennies are and how they're put together.If worse comes to worse, avoid the whole issue of publishers providing product. Have Gen Con sponsor $400 worth of product for each judge, housing for the judges and passes for the jduges. Have the fans vote on what products they want to be seen. The publishers need to be removed from this equation and the fans need to be heard.That's my take on this.</blockquote>

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