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<blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1038353" data-attributes="member: 7394"><p>I think there should be another 2 or 3 non-open categories, and the issue with the art being neither open or non-open is also valid.</p><p></p><p>With regards to Steve's points, (Steve of all people should know not to take any of my rebuttals personally), I think that his logic is somewhat faulty.</p><p></p><p>Point 1: A panel must be selected if the vote is to be formatted as it has been. The people who have returned to these boards time after time, year after year, have shown enough dedication to the hobby that they should be considered "qualified."</p><p></p><p>Point 2: I don't see how this is either here or there. Anyone wishing to enter any sort of award is expected to do this. Call it a marketing expense.</p><p></p><p>Point 3: Again, this is no different than any other sort of publicly decided award. Movies, comics, etc. all invite their fans to participate after the nominations have been made. It's how it is done.</p><p></p><p>Point 4: This, I think, is a valid critique. Exactly who do the Ennies represent? Should you have to be registered on the boards? Is visiting the news page everyday not enough participation in itself to qualify you for voting? If you do have to be a board member, are there any particular bias on the boards towards or against particular publishers? Unfortunately personal bias is something that you just can't escape. I do think non-board members should have been allowed to vote, and I think that if the samer IP address tried to vote more than once, the most recent vote is the one that should count. By doing it in that way, it allows people to change their vote or try again if their ISP crashed.</p><p></p><p>Companies that choose not to submit their material are out. I don't see this as an issue. The alternative is that the panel must get together and discuss the products that they have purchased and them make a decision on who to nomiate accordingly. They must somehow have the clarivoyance to know which contenders are the best from an entire year and then make an investment in that product purely for the purpose of evaluation. I think that a bit silly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I think this goes back to the last point I made, but adds the further complication that the nominations will be all over the place. What's more is that if the awards are a straight popularity contest, then why bother having a nominations and then announcing the winners at all? Why not just tell people to nominate the product/publisher that should win the category and then announce the winner based on the feedback? I think that this method would be a step backwards since it would remove any standard that does exist in the awards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darrin Drader, post: 1038353, member: 7394"] I think there should be another 2 or 3 non-open categories, and the issue with the art being neither open or non-open is also valid. With regards to Steve's points, (Steve of all people should know not to take any of my rebuttals personally), I think that his logic is somewhat faulty. Point 1: A panel must be selected if the vote is to be formatted as it has been. The people who have returned to these boards time after time, year after year, have shown enough dedication to the hobby that they should be considered "qualified." Point 2: I don't see how this is either here or there. Anyone wishing to enter any sort of award is expected to do this. Call it a marketing expense. Point 3: Again, this is no different than any other sort of publicly decided award. Movies, comics, etc. all invite their fans to participate after the nominations have been made. It's how it is done. Point 4: This, I think, is a valid critique. Exactly who do the Ennies represent? Should you have to be registered on the boards? Is visiting the news page everyday not enough participation in itself to qualify you for voting? If you do have to be a board member, are there any particular bias on the boards towards or against particular publishers? Unfortunately personal bias is something that you just can't escape. I do think non-board members should have been allowed to vote, and I think that if the samer IP address tried to vote more than once, the most recent vote is the one that should count. By doing it in that way, it allows people to change their vote or try again if their ISP crashed. Companies that choose not to submit their material are out. I don't see this as an issue. The alternative is that the panel must get together and discuss the products that they have purchased and them make a decision on who to nomiate accordingly. They must somehow have the clarivoyance to know which contenders are the best from an entire year and then make an investment in that product purely for the purpose of evaluation. I think that a bit silly. Again, I think this goes back to the last point I made, but adds the further complication that the nominations will be all over the place. What's more is that if the awards are a straight popularity contest, then why bother having a nominations and then announcing the winners at all? Why not just tell people to nominate the product/publisher that should win the category and then announce the winner based on the feedback? I think that this method would be a step backwards since it would remove any standard that does exist in the awards. [/QUOTE]
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