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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5373879">I wage unceasing war against this stereotype, partly because of an ass-DM I had who thought his Scottish accent was the bees knees, and also because it's just dumb.&nbsp; My solution was simple at first, remove dwarves as a playable option.&nbsp; Of course that didn't go over well, so a forced change was needed.&nbsp; My dwarves are now dark-skinned.&nbsp;No, it really is just as bad, but having a bad attitude doesn't necessarily make them a Rastlin clone.&nbsp; Mages had bad attitudes and superiority complexes long before Rastlin.&nbsp;Hhaven't actually seen this one.&nbsp; I'd imagine every two-bit ogre would squish 'em.&nbsp;Got a point with that one.&nbsp; But the women slapping him in the face makes me laugh.&nbsp;Eh, a stereotypical clothing choice is a less offensive cliche than an emo-evil-misunderstood-not-evil-dogooder.&nbsp;Yes, but again, this is only one feature of a character.&nbsp; Not a full character design, and it makes sense that a gnome or hafling would ride a dog instead of a tiger.&nbsp;Considering we're killing Orcs for raids, kidnappings, ect... all the time, I've never understood the &quot;me hulk smash&quot; character either.&nbsp; Orcs, while not a bunch of Einsteins, can't be that dense.&nbsp;That's more a DMs discretion thing in most cases.&nbsp; You play a half-dragon, well it's up to the DM how the world reacts to you.&nbsp; &nbsp;Honestly, I've never seen one played.&nbsp;Before LOTR movies, the drow ranger.&nbsp; After LOTR, I'd say it's 50/50.&nbsp; but then, elves are advertized as being bow-oriented.&nbsp; So that's more of a lore issue than a character issue.&nbsp;I'm sure you'd be more than welcome to make a topic on that, that said, I think the problem is that Drizzet-clones are full-blown copies.&nbsp; While a gnome riding dog-back, is just an aspect of the character.&nbsp; Stereotypical for sure, but it need not be an overwhelming part of the PC, unlike a Drizzet-clone which demands to be emo and misunderstood as the defining parts of the character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 5373879"] I wage unceasing war against this stereotype, partly because of an ass-DM I had who thought his Scottish accent was the bees knees, and also because it's just dumb. My solution was simple at first, remove dwarves as a playable option. Of course that didn't go over well, so a forced change was needed. My dwarves are now dark-skinned. No, it really is just as bad, but having a bad attitude doesn't necessarily make them a Rastlin clone. Mages had bad attitudes and superiority complexes long before Rastlin. Hhaven't actually seen this one. I'd imagine every two-bit ogre would squish 'em. Got a point with that one. But the women slapping him in the face makes me laugh. Eh, a stereotypical clothing choice is a less offensive cliche than an emo-evil-misunderstood-not-evil-dogooder. Yes, but again, this is only one feature of a character. Not a full character design, and it makes sense that a gnome or hafling would ride a dog instead of a tiger. Considering we're killing Orcs for raids, kidnappings, ect... all the time, I've never understood the "me hulk smash" character either. Orcs, while not a bunch of Einsteins, can't be that dense. That's more a DMs discretion thing in most cases. You play a half-dragon, well it's up to the DM how the world reacts to you. Honestly, I've never seen one played. Before LOTR movies, the drow ranger. After LOTR, I'd say it's 50/50. but then, elves are advertized as being bow-oriented. So that's more of a lore issue than a character issue. I'm sure you'd be more than welcome to make a topic on that, that said, I think the problem is that Drizzet-clones are full-blown copies. While a gnome riding dog-back, is just an aspect of the character. Stereotypical for sure, but it need not be an overwhelming part of the PC, unlike a Drizzet-clone which demands to be emo and misunderstood as the defining parts of the character. [/QUOTE]

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