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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Knowledge Sinkhole" data-source="post: 5792242" data-attributes="member: 2287">I wonder if it wouldn't be enough for the item creator to have the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/threnodic-spell-metamagic" target="_blank">Threnodic Spell</a> metamagic feat.That feat, incidentally, would open up another realm of possible options for dealing with unruly thralls. <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/r/reckless-infatuation" target="_blank">Reckless Infatuation</a> would keep it near by in the event that it did break free. A <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/geas-quest" target="_blank">Geas</a> to make your thrall refrain from breaking free of your Command Undead feat would lead to a permanent thrall- however, it would require the ability to cast 8th level spells (when factoring in the metamagic feat) if you want to affect any thrall with more than 7 HD. Of course, if you could acquire or create a threnodic spell metamagic rod, it would be possible with only 6th level spells. Such rods do not exist in the RAW, unfortunately.  EDIT: Of course, this wouldn't be a problem with the undead bloodline. That might be what cements it as the way to do this.A cleverly worded <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/suggestion" target="_blank">Suggestion</a> might do the trick- "Do not resist my control- existence is so much easier when you let me make all the decisions." Still iffy, of course, since it would depend on whether or not your DM decides that such a suggestion is "obviously harmful" and negates the spell. Still, a very good possibility nonetheless.</blockquote>

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