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Entangle - A Little Too Strong For A 1st Level Spell?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 3413904" data-attributes="member: 545"><p>Let me put it this way: My Druid would trade Entangle for Sleep in a heartbeat.</p><p></p><p>I can see how this might be a problem spell in some specific campaigns, but in more typical campaigns I am having trouble seeing how this spell is actually any better than Sleep overall.</p><p></p><p>Bread and butter enemies in the wilderness have either good Reflex saves (Animals & Magical Beasts) or some competence with ranged attacks (Humanoids).</p><p></p><p>Sleep hits the opponents with the most common weakness (Will) and makes them helpless. Entangle attack a strength (Reflex) or makes them harder to kill (an Entangled enemy archer is an archer that has some protection from my meatshields).</p><p></p><p>The big difference is at higher level play Entangle can sometimes still be useful. But at those levels the precise spell slot of a low level spell is less significant than the cost of an Action. Does anyone really care whether the Arch Lich just cast a 2nd level spell or a 1st level spell?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 3413904, member: 545"] Let me put it this way: My Druid would trade Entangle for Sleep in a heartbeat. I can see how this might be a problem spell in some specific campaigns, but in more typical campaigns I am having trouble seeing how this spell is actually any better than Sleep overall. Bread and butter enemies in the wilderness have either good Reflex saves (Animals & Magical Beasts) or some competence with ranged attacks (Humanoids). Sleep hits the opponents with the most common weakness (Will) and makes them helpless. Entangle attack a strength (Reflex) or makes them harder to kill (an Entangled enemy archer is an archer that has some protection from my meatshields). The big difference is at higher level play Entangle can sometimes still be useful. But at those levels the precise spell slot of a low level spell is less significant than the cost of an Action. Does anyone really care whether the Arch Lich just cast a 2nd level spell or a 1st level spell? [/QUOTE]
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