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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 3414144" data-attributes="member: 16285">And this is an important thing to remember.It also affects allies and prevents them from acting and charging too.I can't help but think that too many people took at the pure numbers (at first glance) to see if something is too powerful without looking at it from more perspectives to actually see if it is "balanced".Examples of things that fall into this category:Warlocks (how many people have gone with "they are far too powerful" without really looking at the restrictions they have?)Soulknife (the opposite end. How many people have gone through the argument that they are too weak without looking at what they can do well and the niche they can fill).Bards (another one that people are split on whether or not they are too weak or not)Spells (far too many to mention, including entangle and magic missile)Prestige classes (just about every week or so someone brings up one they think is out of whack - how long was the argument over whether or not the Mystic Theurge was too powerful going on?)Psion versus spellcaster (again many, many people have gone with the psion being too powerful when compared to a sorcerer or wizard).etc., etc., . . . .</blockquote>