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Entangle - A Little Too Strong For A 1st Level Spell?
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<blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 3414911" data-attributes="member: 7859"><p>Ding, Ding, Ding. I'm starting to think that Mistwell and I are separated D&D twins, as our opinions on rules issues seem to converge more often than not. Perhaps it is a regional thing, (Mistwell I believe lives in the Los Angeles area as well), and we have similar style games.</p><p></p><p>The large AOE is a detriment to the spell for actual use... you are likely to also hit your friends. In 3.0 module the Sunless Citadel the fact the boss Druid cast Entangle probably saved our Hit Point depleted group. </p><p>The Animal Companion and Summoned Animals/Twig Blights got stuck in the AoE. As a Rogue I plinked away with my bow, and healed myself up, slowly moving towards the Druid. The Monk made her saving throw and with Expeditious Retreat spell from the Sorcerer was able to move quickly through the AoE.</p><p>Our Half Orc Barbarian/Cleric had Resistance up, made his saving throw and ran. Next round he missed his saving throw, raged and was able to make his Str Check. The Rogue/Sorcerer also was able to make the Reflex Saving throw.</p><p></p><p>Now Sunless Citadel was a widely played module, being the first released for 3.0. I think it would be very informative to see how many parties were subjected to Entangle and how much of an impact the spell had on them. This would mitigate the theoretical terrain conundrum of the debate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="satori01, post: 3414911, member: 7859"] Ding, Ding, Ding. I'm starting to think that Mistwell and I are separated D&D twins, as our opinions on rules issues seem to converge more often than not. Perhaps it is a regional thing, (Mistwell I believe lives in the Los Angeles area as well), and we have similar style games. The large AOE is a detriment to the spell for actual use... you are likely to also hit your friends. In 3.0 module the Sunless Citadel the fact the boss Druid cast Entangle probably saved our Hit Point depleted group. The Animal Companion and Summoned Animals/Twig Blights got stuck in the AoE. As a Rogue I plinked away with my bow, and healed myself up, slowly moving towards the Druid. The Monk made her saving throw and with Expeditious Retreat spell from the Sorcerer was able to move quickly through the AoE. Our Half Orc Barbarian/Cleric had Resistance up, made his saving throw and ran. Next round he missed his saving throw, raged and was able to make his Str Check. The Rogue/Sorcerer also was able to make the Reflex Saving throw. Now Sunless Citadel was a widely played module, being the first released for 3.0. I think it would be very informative to see how many parties were subjected to Entangle and how much of an impact the spell had on them. This would mitigate the theoretical terrain conundrum of the debate. [/QUOTE]
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