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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2384768" data-attributes="member: 31734"><p>Anyone caught within the central 20ft radius <em>can't </em>get out in a single half move. Anyone within the central 30ft radius needs a medium speed to get out (so character in heavy armor are stuck). So, for the most part, everyone affected by this spell will spend an entire round's worth of actions just trying to get out, with at least half the people spending two rounds. Since I personally think that most parties will not spread out further than a 20ft radius, this means that this spell will cause the entire party to waste 1 or 2 rounds of actions trying to escape, with no SR applicable and assuming all saves are made. That alone should make the spell higher level.</p><p> </p><p> Your anger towards splatbooks does not help your case on entangle. Btw, it's also a 1st level ranger spell and Plant domain cleric spell.</p><p> </p><p> So what? The OP feels it is overpowered, as do many others. I did and houseruled it much like CM and ForceUser and the characters still use it. You even say 'spend forever', so how can you say that and not feel it's slightly overpowered?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2384768, member: 31734"] Anyone caught within the central 20ft radius [i]can't [/i]get out in a single half move. Anyone within the central 30ft radius needs a medium speed to get out (so character in heavy armor are stuck). So, for the most part, everyone affected by this spell will spend an entire round's worth of actions just trying to get out, with at least half the people spending two rounds. Since I personally think that most parties will not spread out further than a 20ft radius, this means that this spell will cause the entire party to waste 1 or 2 rounds of actions trying to escape, with no SR applicable and assuming all saves are made. That alone should make the spell higher level. Your anger towards splatbooks does not help your case on entangle. Btw, it's also a 1st level ranger spell and Plant domain cleric spell. So what? The OP feels it is overpowered, as do many others. I did and houseruled it much like CM and ForceUser and the characters still use it. You even say 'spend forever', so how can you say that and not feel it's slightly overpowered? [/QUOTE]
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