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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2385341" data-attributes="member: 20805">Updating 3.5 ..I think the spell text didn't get properly updated to 3.5.IIRC, all the 'half-speed' things, like difficult terrain, turning into sqaures costing +5' of movement. or somethign like that.IMHO, the spell would be better phrased with a 40' area spread that is treated as difficult terrain {+5' movement cost} and the plants can entangle characters. That way it codifies how the spell interacts with things like underbrush and stuff. This was in response to the 'its overpowered..see, even useful against a 15th level party!' line futher upthread.The spell can be nasty, and yes.. limiting the plant life in encounter areas does impact on the druids effectiveness. Just like adventuring in a Halfing built mine affects the Greatsword weilder. Proper DM adjucation allowes for a fair mix of 'sorry, not a good place to use this ability' and 'holy Entanglement batman! This is the perfect place for your abliity!' {with stages in between of course}My style of running games gives each player a turn in the spotlight, and the players have a large say in which direction the party goes. If they choose to head into the Deserts of Desolation, the druid better know that Entangle will not be optimum. On the other hand, create Water will be extremely valuable.My next adventure planned is going to be the Druid's turn for a spotlight, heading into a heavy forest and dealing with Druid a themed plotline. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Entangle will be highly usefull to them a number of times.. and may even get used against them!An interesting addition could be increasing the checks DC {Ref and STR} the closer you are to certain large plants with reach, and have failures draw you in one square closer. As such, the 'hot spot' of a willow tree could be a nasty thing to deal with, lashing out and drawing the PC's deeper into its grasp.Hmm.. something to mull over before the next adventure starts  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" /></blockquote>

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