Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Enchanted Trinkets Complete--a hardcover book containing over 500 magic items for your D&D games!

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 678032" data-attributes="member: 177">A few thoughts...Is the episode derivative?  Perhaps.  But since the things it's derived from are over a decade old, I'm not so sure that's a sin.  Eventually, everything old is new again.  It certainly isn't like we humans have grown to the point where we no longer need to hear the message.Now, as for some of your other complaints, consider this - perhaps the Vulcans aren't static.  You talk as if you expect the vulcans of the current series to be exactly the same as Vulcans from TOS, or TNG.  Why?  If humans are supposed to grow and change over time, why shouldn't the vulcans?In this show, we see the galaxy as it was when humans were fledglings.  Nobody has even heard of them.  By the time of TOS and TNG, humans are a major, dominant force.  We should expect that during that rise, humans would have some impact on other cultures.  So, just as humans grow and change, so do their closest partners, the vulcans.Oh, and if you think back to the relationship between Sarek and Spock, stretching from TOS through TNG, vulcans are not always "enlightened".  Sarek was stubborn and narrow minded for a long time.Last note - don't equate "logical" with "reasonable"  they aren't the same thing.  Vulcans pride themselves on logic, not on reason. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

Verification