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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 437624" data-attributes="member: 5">So what's up with you folks that seemingly have no interest in Enterprise and still spend your time posting to threads about it?  Don't you have something better to do than just bad mouth something you apparently do not like?Anyway...The "temporal cold war" (for those for you who haven't figured it out yet) is obviously something they've chosen as a series story arc.  I highly doubt that the occasional "I hate this!" post on the Internet is going to change that.  I think that with DS9, they kowtowed to the early machinations of the Internet and switched horses in mid stream (adding the Defiant and its off-station antics).  I think that after having some serious ratings drop off with DS9 they learned that the majority of outspoken Internet folks really don't have a handle on what most ST fans are interested in seeing.  (Yup.  I've been around long enough to see how the Internet has affected, then been ignored, in regard to television prgramming.)So let's be hoenst, DS9 was actually the worst of the series because instead of presenting a vision, they flapped like a weak flag, said they were doing one thing, and then followed a thin segment of public opinion that really only amounted to what little could be gleaned online from disgruntled fans instead of the majority (and yes, online opinion is a smidgeon of what the full audience is).  It's actually why DS9 started off weakly, then finished up weakly, yet remains so poular among Internet crowds.  People who are opinionated, and are also disgruntuled, are far more out-spoken online than people who actually like what is status quo.  I'm going out on a limb here hoping that EN Boarders are sharp enough to realize the actuality of what I am saying.*shrug* Personally, I think that all ST is good (enough) ST and can never figure out why some knuckleheads can complain and not find some way into writing their own versions considering how open the genre actually is. It's amazing to me how easily someone can spend hours and hours online writing online what their personal opinions are and yet when asked to come up with something better can claim they have a busy personal life with whatever excuses they usually put forth as their standard retort.Bottom line, I think people who complain and can't actually show how they have tried to make things different are selling themsleves short since it is so easily possible to make an actual change.  Please don't throw out the usual responses of how tough it is unless you have some documented proof of how you've tried and failed.  And if you do have some proof, please share your vision of how it can be done better, so that the usual crowd of nay-sayers can have at your vision and explain why it is no better than what exists.Anyone of the usual whiners want to tell me about having spent a few months writing something and sending it in only to be rejected?Better yet, tell me about how you actually spent the time writing something, got rejected, and have an iron in the fire to do some other thing with the idea that didn't make it as an ST epsode.  Let's go one further step and simply tell me about having written even a 1,000 word summary about an idea that you still have yet to do anything with.I'll give you one last out... Spit out a single idea you have that even makes sense that will stand the battering of a message board crowd (and, let's face it, you're getting off very easy on these particular boards). *shrug*Tell ya what, I start a Star Trek thread almost every week.  If you don't like what you have spent the time watching, then quit watching, or at least, come to the thread and suggest some way of making it better.  Even if you don't have any intention of approaching it professionally to make it better, at the least, try to propose how you would make it better as a fan rather than just bitching about how you think it is bad (or, worse, how much better previous series were in comparison).   Don't waste anyone's time with your sad ass bitching, unless you actually have some way of trying to make things better.  Cause quite frankly, you aren't dong anything but being a pain in the ass.The gauntlet has been dropped.  It's up to the usual whiners to crap or get the hell off the pot.</blockquote>

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