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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Michael Morris" data-source="post: 1248393" data-attributes="member: 87">Ok, all the styles are back up.None of them have any javascript of my making.  They do have the script that drives the ad banner included and the scripts that are a normal part of vbulletin.One of the reasons that are rendering much faster is that they are table-based, not layer based as the previous ones were.  I knew this would make a difference on older browsers/computers but I didn't realize it would make a difference on newer systems.Size wise, the newer styles are actually *smaller* than the ENWorld classic style.My remaining worry is the ad script - it was causing problems on me before but somehow it's resolved itself for now.  I don't know if including it in a table will affect it.  -my theory is it won't, but I've been wrong before.</blockquote>