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<blockquote data-quote="Composer99" data-source="post: 9803319" data-attributes="member: 7030042"><p>I dunno.</p><p></p><p>On the "control spells wreck boss fights, hence legendary resistance" thread, there were a few good ideas about alternatives to legendary resistance. For instance, if memory serves, one person suggested that action-denial spells (<em>hideous laughter</em> and so on) could prune away legendary actions. I don't recall that those ideas were cropping up past page 5, though, and that thread is now going on 40+ pages. It could be that some more new ideas are cropping up as latecomers to the thread offer their throughts, of course, but having exhausted my patience with the thread I'm not inclined to dig through it to find them.</p><p></p><p>Also, <em>I just don't care enough about whether or not legendary resistance is a design problem that needs solving</em> that I would even want to find a solution to it. So whether or not people are coming up with alternatives to legendary resistance is just... not pertinent to me, no matter how creative they may be. Mind, I'm <strong><em>not</em></strong> saying other folks are wrong in thinking legendary resistance is a problem - after all, Mearls himself admitted it was a kludge! - or that they're wrong to seek out solutions to it. More power to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well and good! All I can do is point to my own personal experience.</p><p></p><p>In a way, reading and participating in a hobby discussion forum is also a hobby, so if I don't have anything (that I think is) interesting to say, I usually don't participate, and I'll very quickly abandon a thread I'm reading if it stops being interesting or if it's getting tedious or tiresome to read through, for the same reason that I'll abandon a book or video game. Obviously, everyone else views their hobby forum participation differently, or finds different things interesting (or not) than I do, so I can't expect my take to be universally held.</p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, viz. fisking, I actually do think fisking is quite valuable in many contexts, especially when close reading is important. I just personally find it exhausting to read, especially when reading on a hobbyist discussion forum is also part of my hobby. (Back in the day, I used to participate more extensively in medicine-related discussions on medical-themed blogs, where proponents of quackery would frequently get fisked. That was the Lord's work, you might say, but still exhausting to read through, which among other things is why I eventually drifted away from participating in such discussions.)</p><p></p><p>Finally, I should not like to give the impression that I was singling you, or any of your interlocutors, out specifically, and I apologise if you felt compelled to reply out of a sense that I was doing just that. That thread just happened to be the most recent example I could think of of the kind of thing I was pointing at. I've been here long enough to have a long enough posting history that I may well have fisked a post or two myself! Most importantly, as long as there is something <em>you</em> found interesting or even enjoyable about those discussions, then please don't take anything I have to say as reason to stop having them in that particular format!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Composer99, post: 9803319, member: 7030042"] I dunno. On the "control spells wreck boss fights, hence legendary resistance" thread, there were a few good ideas about alternatives to legendary resistance. For instance, if memory serves, one person suggested that action-denial spells ([I]hideous laughter[/I] and so on) could prune away legendary actions. I don't recall that those ideas were cropping up past page 5, though, and that thread is now going on 40+ pages. It could be that some more new ideas are cropping up as latecomers to the thread offer their throughts, of course, but having exhausted my patience with the thread I'm not inclined to dig through it to find them. Also, [I]I just don't care enough about whether or not legendary resistance is a design problem that needs solving[/I] that I would even want to find a solution to it. So whether or not people are coming up with alternatives to legendary resistance is just... not pertinent to me, no matter how creative they may be. Mind, I'm [B][I]not[/I][/B] saying other folks are wrong in thinking legendary resistance is a problem - after all, Mearls himself admitted it was a kludge! - or that they're wrong to seek out solutions to it. More power to them. Well and good! All I can do is point to my own personal experience. In a way, reading and participating in a hobby discussion forum is also a hobby, so if I don't have anything (that I think is) interesting to say, I usually don't participate, and I'll very quickly abandon a thread I'm reading if it stops being interesting or if it's getting tedious or tiresome to read through, for the same reason that I'll abandon a book or video game. Obviously, everyone else views their hobby forum participation differently, or finds different things interesting (or not) than I do, so I can't expect my take to be universally held. For what it's worth, viz. fisking, I actually do think fisking is quite valuable in many contexts, especially when close reading is important. I just personally find it exhausting to read, especially when reading on a hobbyist discussion forum is also part of my hobby. (Back in the day, I used to participate more extensively in medicine-related discussions on medical-themed blogs, where proponents of quackery would frequently get fisked. That was the Lord's work, you might say, but still exhausting to read through, which among other things is why I eventually drifted away from participating in such discussions.) Finally, I should not like to give the impression that I was singling you, or any of your interlocutors, out specifically, and I apologise if you felt compelled to reply out of a sense that I was doing just that. That thread just happened to be the most recent example I could think of of the kind of thing I was pointing at. I've been here long enough to have a long enough posting history that I may well have fisked a post or two myself! Most importantly, as long as there is something [I]you[/I] found interesting or even enjoyable about those discussions, then please don't take anything I have to say as reason to stop having them in that particular format! [/QUOTE]
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