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<blockquote data-quote="jonrog1" data-source="post: 300672" data-attributes="member: 189"><p><strong>Re: Don't kill me...</strong></p><p></p><p>First of all, before we get to a post I feel deserves a reasoned response, I want to make sure I'm not misleading anybody. It's not like I wrote this out of my basement and got it made. I do this for a living -- wrote for television for five years, been rewriting films for three. This just happens to be the only thing I've worked on recently I thought my d20 brethren would dig.</p><p></p><p>Now, granted, I didn't have any contacts or family members in LA, and I didn't go to film school, so hope does spring eternal.</p><p></p><p>The person to be really impressed by is Andy, from the Dark*Matter campaign. I'd written a whackload of movies and five pilots before this one got shot. His show HAUNTED, on after BUFFY this year, was not only the first pilot he'd written, it's the <em>first TV script</em> he'd written. He <em>really</em> deserves a kick in the head.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hey, I'm not going to flame you (I'm Canadian, we just don't do that)... just want to point out, I KNOW all that stuff. I'd have to be a chimp NOT to know that stuff. If I were doing a procedural, everybody would behave exactly as they should behave. I totally agree that when shows PRETENDING to be regular cop shows make these mistakes, it must be grating. </p><p></p><p>I recently wrote a sci-fi movie, and with my physics background, grinding through the sloppy,sloppy science of previous writers was awful. ("A windshield ... in a digging machine. Do you know what you'd see? DIRT! You can't see through DIRT you knobs!")</p><p></p><p>I don't think in any way, once we do the gravity-defying double-kick leap, anybody could take us seriously as as procedural. It's opera. They could just as easily be spies or superheroes. </p><p></p><p>It's what's got us in a bit of a bind, stylistically -- the characters aren't monosyllabic thugs, so people assume we can't just be an <em>action</em> show. And so why aren't we out CSI'ing it on crime scenes? (although I've got my own rant about that show. Why the hell are the Crime Scene Techs doing interrogations?)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, in my own pitiful way, I think we were pretty spot on with police <em>theory</em> if not <em>practice</em> -- the FBI as structured <em>is</em> a remnant of a different time in criminal enforcement, and the SES squad is based on the Flying Squads of the Canadian Mounted Police. In a weird coincidence, two weeks after we finished shooting a Congressman suggested forming teams in the FBI quite a bit like ours. (I wonder if I could get merchandising...)</p><p></p><p>Also, that's the reason I had the Riley/Li conflict over search warrants. Although I have no intention to sweat details (again, leaping from fire escape to fire escape), with shows like this you can discuss important themes -- how the Bill of Rights keeps us from sliding into China-like fascism, as much as we bitch about it -- while keeping people happy with the chick-fu.</p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Let me be the first to loudly and emphatically thank you for serving your community and your country while I sit behind a desk and make s&%t up. Stay safe, and take care.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jonrog1, post: 300672, member: 189"] [b]Re: Don't kill me...[/b] First of all, before we get to a post I feel deserves a reasoned response, I want to make sure I'm not misleading anybody. It's not like I wrote this out of my basement and got it made. I do this for a living -- wrote for television for five years, been rewriting films for three. This just happens to be the only thing I've worked on recently I thought my d20 brethren would dig. Now, granted, I didn't have any contacts or family members in LA, and I didn't go to film school, so hope does spring eternal. The person to be really impressed by is Andy, from the Dark*Matter campaign. I'd written a whackload of movies and five pilots before this one got shot. His show HAUNTED, on after BUFFY this year, was not only the first pilot he'd written, it's the [i]first TV script[/i] he'd written. He [i]really[/i] deserves a kick in the head. Hey, I'm not going to flame you (I'm Canadian, we just don't do that)... just want to point out, I KNOW all that stuff. I'd have to be a chimp NOT to know that stuff. If I were doing a procedural, everybody would behave exactly as they should behave. I totally agree that when shows PRETENDING to be regular cop shows make these mistakes, it must be grating. I recently wrote a sci-fi movie, and with my physics background, grinding through the sloppy,sloppy science of previous writers was awful. ("A windshield ... in a digging machine. Do you know what you'd see? DIRT! You can't see through DIRT you knobs!") I don't think in any way, once we do the gravity-defying double-kick leap, anybody could take us seriously as as procedural. It's opera. They could just as easily be spies or superheroes. It's what's got us in a bit of a bind, stylistically -- the characters aren't monosyllabic thugs, so people assume we can't just be an [i]action[/i] show. And so why aren't we out CSI'ing it on crime scenes? (although I've got my own rant about that show. Why the hell are the Crime Scene Techs doing interrogations?) Well, in my own pitiful way, I think we were pretty spot on with police [i]theory[/i] if not [i]practice[/i] -- the FBI as structured [i]is[/i] a remnant of a different time in criminal enforcement, and the SES squad is based on the Flying Squads of the Canadian Mounted Police. In a weird coincidence, two weeks after we finished shooting a Congressman suggested forming teams in the FBI quite a bit like ours. (I wonder if I could get merchandising...) Also, that's the reason I had the Riley/Li conflict over search warrants. Although I have no intention to sweat details (again, leaping from fire escape to fire escape), with shows like this you can discuss important themes -- how the Bill of Rights keeps us from sliding into China-like fascism, as much as we bitch about it -- while keeping people happy with the chick-fu. Let me be the first to loudly and emphatically thank you for serving your community and your country while I sit behind a desk and make s&%t up. Stay safe, and take care. [/QUOTE]
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