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<blockquote data-quote="Marius Delphus" data-source="post: 822756" data-attributes="member: 447">Souljourner: Whoops! That'll teach me to at least consult the SRD before jumping into Rules threads. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Overpowered? The party that includes the &quot;real&quot; Marius Delphus also includes 4 25th-level fighter-types: a greatsword wielder, an archer, a dual-wielding duelist, and a paladin.The greatsword's average damage is quite impressive, and the critical hits are Unbelievable(tm) (including 2 saves to avoid instant death... for every critical hit); the greatsword wielder chops down pit fiends like firewood.The archer's arrows (which come out of the gear-total!) are pretty much on par with the AA's arrows (though lacking a +10 or whatever enhancement bonus); this archer can still slay an average Ancient Red Dragon in three to four rounds.I haven't finished designing the duelist, but preliminary numbers and a similar playtested character indicate she'll have a Cuisinart thing going... low (compared to the greatsword) damage per hit, but around nine (fairly high TAB) attacks per round.The paladin is fairly respectable all told, but the Smites! Oh My Deity, the Smites! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Whap! Want another? Whap!Ahem. So yeah, epic combat is full of a lot of high numbers. It's something I'm still not used to, because things didn't get this Unbelievable this fast in earlier editions. Your average 25th level character in 2E was not *so* much more than your average 18th level character... now they are...Can spellcasters compete? You betcha....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marius Delphus, post: 822756, member: 447"] Souljourner: Whoops! That'll teach me to at least consult the SRD before jumping into Rules threads. :) Overpowered? The party that includes the "real" Marius Delphus also includes 4 25th-level fighter-types: a greatsword wielder, an archer, a dual-wielding duelist, and a paladin. The greatsword's average damage is quite impressive, and the critical hits are Unbelievable(tm) (including 2 saves to avoid instant death... for every critical hit); the greatsword wielder chops down pit fiends like firewood. The archer's arrows (which come out of the gear-total!) are pretty much on par with the AA's arrows (though lacking a +10 or whatever enhancement bonus); this archer can still slay an average Ancient Red Dragon in three to four rounds. I haven't finished designing the duelist, but preliminary numbers and a similar playtested character indicate she'll have a Cuisinart thing going... low (compared to the greatsword) damage per hit, but around nine (fairly high TAB) attacks per round. The paladin is fairly respectable all told, but the Smites! Oh My Deity, the Smites! :) Whap! Want another? Whap! Ahem. So yeah, epic combat is full of a lot of high numbers. It's something I'm still not used to, because things didn't get this Unbelievable this fast in earlier editions. Your average 25th level character in 2E was not *so* much more than your average 18th level character... now they are... Can spellcasters compete? You betcha.... [/QUOTE]

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