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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 258794" data-attributes="member: 5971">Psion, I believe you meant to say that if character who took 20 levels of fighter and then 20 levels of epic wizard would have more iterative attacks than character with 20 wizard levels and 20 levels of fighter at epic levels.  Both characters would have +30 BAB, only that the fighter first would have +30/+25/+20/+15, the wizard first would have +30/+25.  But I have no problem with that at all, after all a 20th level wizard should build on his strengths in epic levels, and being a fighter is not one of them.But I had a thought, maybe theres hope for my svirfbelin after all.  Maybe the number of iterative attacks is really based on your FIRST 20 HD.  That would make sense to me.For example, take a fire giant, he's got 15 HD and is CR10 and his base BAB is +11/+6/+1.  Lets say he takes levels in fighter, at level 5 fighter he should look like this +16/+11/+6/+1 (plus str bonuses) or 4 iterative attacks.  Here he should max out his number of iterative attacks since he has 20 hit dice, even though he is only a CR 15 monster.  Therefore gaining addtional levels in fighter will only increase BAB, not gain additional attacks.Now lets say our fire giant takes another 5 levels of fighter, making him 10th level and therefor becomming CR 20, our firegiant would have a BAB of +21/+16/+11/+6... stop... he would not gain the extra /+1 attack because he is over the 20HD limit (15 hd for fire giant + 10 hd for fighter).Therefore, maybe my svirfbelin will still gain his 4th attack at 18th level (ECL = 21), at his first epic level because he has only 18 hit dice.  Dunno, but I'm hoping...</blockquote>

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