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Epic Casters, How do you run with the pack?
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<blockquote data-quote="SevenSir" data-source="post: 792736" data-attributes="member: 10476"><p>At non-epic levels, damage spells just keep getting better. Fireball turns into delayed blast fireball turns into meteor swarm. With existing feats, an epic level caster can raise these spells well out of the realm of the 20th level caster. Saying you don't get new, better spells, and are therefore at a disadvantage, just seems silly.</p><p></p><p>An epic spell leaves a mark. Like Caliber said, creating a mountain would be a very logical epic spell. Another might be to drive all the animals from a region, for an indefinite period. Creating permanent planes of existence is entirely within the realm of an epic caster's abilities. Why slay a handful of mortals, or make a fleeting blast of fire?</p><p></p><p>By the way, Souljourner, how would a PC get that additional +10 "from some other type"? You mentioned level-up bonuses (+10), +5 inherent, +12 enhancement. Because you mentioned it, I'm sure it exists, but I can't think of what it is. Munchkins and the very devoted are the ones who know this stuff, I guess. With a non-standard race, you could get it up by +10, I'm sure, but then you'd have an ECL and that would be your initial stat, which you gave as 16.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SevenSir, post: 792736, member: 10476"] At non-epic levels, damage spells just keep getting better. Fireball turns into delayed blast fireball turns into meteor swarm. With existing feats, an epic level caster can raise these spells well out of the realm of the 20th level caster. Saying you don't get new, better spells, and are therefore at a disadvantage, just seems silly. An epic spell leaves a mark. Like Caliber said, creating a mountain would be a very logical epic spell. Another might be to drive all the animals from a region, for an indefinite period. Creating permanent planes of existence is entirely within the realm of an epic caster's abilities. Why slay a handful of mortals, or make a fleeting blast of fire? By the way, Souljourner, how would a PC get that additional +10 "from some other type"? You mentioned level-up bonuses (+10), +5 inherent, +12 enhancement. Because you mentioned it, I'm sure it exists, but I can't think of what it is. Munchkins and the very devoted are the ones who know this stuff, I guess. With a non-standard race, you could get it up by +10, I'm sure, but then you'd have an ECL and that would be your initial stat, which you gave as 16. [/QUOTE]
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