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<blockquote data-quote="Wrahn" data-source="post: 3007575" data-attributes="member: 9191"><p>I would disagree on the interpretation that a lore roll will give obscure and relevant information about everything we meet. The DC is set if there is relevant information to be had. For example, "King Fordle has a great love of any vintage from the Kelrupt region." is both obscure and could be relevant (if we need to bribe him or make a gift for him), but hardly what I would call omniscience.</p><p></p><p>Lore is not appropriate for everything, a good example of that is the healer. There is no reference for a healer servant of the Perfect, there is no reason Lore would give me anything.</p><p></p><p>I think you are taking the ability too literally, if I happen to roll Lore about some subject and there is no information available, then it doesn't matter what is rolled, there is no information there.</p><p></p><p>But hey, we obviously have a different view on what the ability does. I would consider Lore powerful but no where near game breaking. Let me end my side of this discussion with these two thoughts: Lack of information is currently stopping the group from doing anything, current topics of conversations include consulting/kidnapping sages to learn more. Shouldn't an epic loremaster know at least as much as a sage? And second, access to general information will speed the game along.</p><p></p><p>Currently I would ask you to look at Mind Rape (from the BoVD) and where it says I know everthing the target does, whether you are willing for that to happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wrahn, post: 3007575, member: 9191"] I would disagree on the interpretation that a lore roll will give obscure and relevant information about everything we meet. The DC is set if there is relevant information to be had. For example, "King Fordle has a great love of any vintage from the Kelrupt region." is both obscure and could be relevant (if we need to bribe him or make a gift for him), but hardly what I would call omniscience. Lore is not appropriate for everything, a good example of that is the healer. There is no reference for a healer servant of the Perfect, there is no reason Lore would give me anything. I think you are taking the ability too literally, if I happen to roll Lore about some subject and there is no information available, then it doesn't matter what is rolled, there is no information there. But hey, we obviously have a different view on what the ability does. I would consider Lore powerful but no where near game breaking. Let me end my side of this discussion with these two thoughts: Lack of information is currently stopping the group from doing anything, current topics of conversations include consulting/kidnapping sages to learn more. Shouldn't an epic loremaster know at least as much as a sage? And second, access to general information will speed the game along. Currently I would ask you to look at Mind Rape (from the BoVD) and where it says I know everthing the target does, whether you are willing for that to happen. [/QUOTE]
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