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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 5540796" data-attributes="member: 4936">Shayuri: I'm kinda partial to the first build myself, but thats just me. One thing to add though is I'd like to suggest to you taking the Shield of Infinite Arrow Deflection instead of Exceptional Deflection. You already have a ring of spellturning, which means targeted spell effects will simply bounce off you anyways. I think you might get alot more milage out of deflecting all standard ranged attacks a round instead of 1 non-standard attack.Well, this is an interesting question. But I'll explain my reasoning and see what you think.1) The Ring of Spell Turning doesn't work on spells that have ranged touches. Such spells create effects, and are specifically excluded from Spell Turning per the spell description: Spells and spell-like effects targeted on you are turned back upon the original caster. The abjuration turns only spells that have you as a target. Effect and area spells are not affected. Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells.Plus, it's limited uses per day. I bought it to deal with spells that target me directly and pierce my SR. Such spells are normally of the variety (Implosion...Finger of Death...etc...) that you do NOT want to be subject to. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />2) The Exceptional Deflection shield trait uses identical phrasing to Infinite Deflection. A case can be made for it operating just as Infinite Deflection, but covering a wider range of attacks. This would account for it being so much more expensive than Infinite Deflection when otherwise its relative strength would be comparable. From the SRD under Epic Magic Items:Exceptional Arrow Deflection: This shield functions like a shield of arrow deflection except that it can deflect any type of ranged attack (including spells that require a ranged touch attack) as if it were an arrow. Any time the bearer would normally be struck by a ranged attack, he or she can make a Reflex saving throw (DC 20). If the ranged attack has an enhancement bonus (or a spell level), the DC increases by that amount. If he or she succeeds, the shield deflects the attack. The bearer must be aware of the attack and not flat-footed. Attempting to deflect a ranged attack doesn’t count as an action.Italics added by me. Compare to:Infinite Arrow Deflection: This shield functions like a shield of arrow deflection, though it can deflect any number of projectiles or thrown weapons each round. Any time the bearer would normally be struck by a ranged weapon, he or she can make a Reflex saving throw (DC 20). If the ranged weapon has an enhancement bonus, the DC increases by that amount. If he or she succeeds, the shield deflects the weapon. The bearer must be aware of the attack and not flat-footed. Attempting to deflect a ranged weapon doesn’t count as an action. Exceptional ranged weapons, such as boulders hurled by giants or ranged spells, can’t be deflected.And NOW compare to:Great Reflection: Any time its bearer of this shield is targeted with a spell, it automatically reflects the spell back at the caster (as the spell turning spell). The wearer can lower or raise this effect as a free action (thus allowing beneficial spells in as desired)....If Exceptional Deflection only worked 1/rnd, then it would be perhaps a little more powerful than Infinite Deflection, which works against all incoming attacks, but of a limited subset. But the Exceptional Deflection trait is +8, compared to +6. That translates to hundreds of thousands of GP difference, and potentially several character levels before it becomes available.My thought is that Exceptional Deflection works identically to Infinite Deflection, only improved. It's basically Infinite Deflection plus Exceptional ranged attacks too. Hence the power jump. What do you think?</blockquote>

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