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<blockquote data-quote="drjones" data-source="post: 4216187" data-attributes="member: 62944">I think you are right about the math.&nbsp; By drawing a line in the sand they do not need to 'support' anything scaling off the defined levels.&nbsp; When designing a monster/power they know when the math stops.But I think the intention of the whole epic/end at 30 thing was more to encourage DMs and players to not think of leveling up as the goal in and of itself.&nbsp; It provides a structure to hang your character arc upon and serves as a reminder that how many hit points you have is not a huge deal, who your character is and what story they are part of is.BUT I CAN DO THAT ALLREADY!!! you say.&nbsp; Yes YOU can.&nbsp; Mr. dm who has never played before needs the help.&nbsp; As for it being too constricting I don't see anything here that requires a certain characterization, your epic destiny could be to settle down and farm turnips as far as I can tell, just that you do so after having done fabulous things and become amazingly powerful.&nbsp; The only thing it is pushing is that you should think about wrapping things up as you approach 30.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drjones, post: 4216187, member: 62944"] I think you are right about the math. By drawing a line in the sand they do not need to 'support' anything scaling off the defined levels. When designing a monster/power they know when the math stops. But I think the intention of the whole epic/end at 30 thing was more to encourage DMs and players to not think of leveling up as the goal in and of itself. It provides a structure to hang your character arc upon and serves as a reminder that how many hit points you have is not a huge deal, who your character is and what story they are part of is. BUT I CAN DO THAT ALLREADY!!! you say. Yes YOU can. Mr. dm who has never played before needs the help. As for it being too constricting I don't see anything here that requires a certain characterization, your epic destiny could be to settle down and farm turnips as far as I can tell, just that you do so after having done fabulous things and become amazingly powerful. The only thing it is pushing is that you should think about wrapping things up as you approach 30. [/QUOTE]

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