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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 1917485" data-attributes="member: 16221">Right now, I'm planning from the get go to have my current campaign go into epic levels.  I've also decided flat out that I won't be using the ELH... I'm still hoping against hope that Upper Krust will have his Immortal's Handbook ready by the time I actually need to use it.  Fortunately, my players are only levels 6 and 7 right now, so I won't NEED it for a while yet.But basically, I've got a story in my head which starts with the "young innocent" adventurers awakening an ancient evil at low level, which slowly gains more and power as it awakes, leading up into a war across the planes and heavens, where the warriors will be destroying stars with singles blows of their swords... where entire nations, entire worlds will be directed as living weapons-- and I don't even know which side of the war the PCs will choose!The sort of thing I'm planning simply would not work with the ELH.  I need -EPIC- spell casting... stuff that will, as I said, snuff out stars, or cast a kingdom into perpetual winter, or charm an entire kingdom.  Like others have said, the ELH seems to want Epic Spellcasting to be an Epic Mage's combat method of choice, which just doesn't cut it.  I calculated the cost of casting Narnia into an eternal winter, and just raising the area to a significant level put the casting DC into the hundreds of thousands, encroaching on millions.So yeah.  I'm definitely waiting for the Immortals Handbook.  Luckily, my players have plenty to go through before they'll ahve to worry about this.</blockquote>

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