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<blockquote data-quote="Bryan898" data-source="post: 1921071" data-attributes="member: 9085"><p><strong>Hijacking the Thread</strong></p><p></p><p>I'm going to hijack the thread for a quick question that's sort of off topic. So if in your campaign you start the world ready for epic levels complete with high level commoners and such, where do your characters start? Truthfully if a common soldier is an 8th level character, the common orc raider should also be 8th level. What does a 1st level character fight/ do? How do you start from first level and run epic by creating the world to accomadate epic levels like that without taking from the reality of the game at lower levels?</p><p></p><p>I can see your points about people being leveled, but the common soldier being low level makes since to me. Eighth level seems way out of line... the common soldier could slay 3 ogres and not break a sweat? or a troll? They have some feats to work with but more importantly they are trained in Every Martial - Simple Weapon, and all Armors and Shield, which is no small feat. As for them being stronger than your average joe or more alert, their hit points and ranks are more than enough to show that aspect of a soldier compared to a commoner. For crafts and professions, as noted before you forget about the taking 10 ability, which leads huge amounts to the realism of the game. I once played in a game like this where every soldier was like 10th level, and every orc about 15th level... I couldn't help but ask why the orcs haven't taken over the world and if we were supposed to level off squirrels? It doesn't seem real to assume that every soldier or orc raider, or whatever has survived about a hundred fights (average 13 per level as the system was created).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bryan898, post: 1921071, member: 9085"] [b]Hijacking the Thread[/b] I'm going to hijack the thread for a quick question that's sort of off topic. So if in your campaign you start the world ready for epic levels complete with high level commoners and such, where do your characters start? Truthfully if a common soldier is an 8th level character, the common orc raider should also be 8th level. What does a 1st level character fight/ do? How do you start from first level and run epic by creating the world to accomadate epic levels like that without taking from the reality of the game at lower levels? I can see your points about people being leveled, but the common soldier being low level makes since to me. Eighth level seems way out of line... the common soldier could slay 3 ogres and not break a sweat? or a troll? They have some feats to work with but more importantly they are trained in Every Martial - Simple Weapon, and all Armors and Shield, which is no small feat. As for them being stronger than your average joe or more alert, their hit points and ranks are more than enough to show that aspect of a soldier compared to a commoner. For crafts and professions, as noted before you forget about the taking 10 ability, which leads huge amounts to the realism of the game. I once played in a game like this where every soldier was like 10th level, and every orc about 15th level... I couldn't help but ask why the orcs haven't taken over the world and if we were supposed to level off squirrels? It doesn't seem real to assume that every soldier or orc raider, or whatever has survived about a hundred fights (average 13 per level as the system was created). [/QUOTE]
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