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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 767221" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>Okay, here's how Increased Spell Capacity works:</p><p></p><p>Your Sorceror-25 has Increased Spell Capacity taken twice, right? Fine; the first one adds <strong>one</strong> tenth-level spell per day, plus any bonusses you get from high Charisma.</p><p></p><p>The second feat adds one <strong>11th</strong> level spell per day (plus your charisma bonus, if any). You don't lose the prior benefits, each time you take Increased Spell Capacity, you get ANOTHER level of spell.</p><p></p><p>By the way, 10th level slots are NOT the same as Epic spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of <strong>course</strong> you have to take the feat!! Did you get 5th level spells when your sorceror was 1st and 2d level, just because of high charisma?</p><p></p><p>Nope.</p><p></p><p>Ditto for 10th and higher level spells. You only get the bonus, if you could cast at least one spell of that level <em>without your charisma bonus</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it's not 15 times the die roll. It's 6 times the die roll -- Empower does not multiply with itself. EACH USE of that feat, gives you 50% of the rolled bonus, and <strong>only</strong> 50% of the actual rolled bonus. Metamagicks <em>do not stack</em> ... they each work based solely on the BASE spell itself.</p><p></p><p>Thus, 10 Empowers is 10 times adding 50% of the base spell -- or, +500%. For a total of 600% benefit.</p><p></p><p>If you rolled a 5 like you said, you would get: (5 + (2.5 x 10) =) +30 charisma.</p><p></p><p>Further, to do this, would require THREE Increased Spell Capacity feats, AND the Improved Metamagic feat. Four epic feats, isn't easy to manage, even for a 28th level caster. Not impossible, but not easy to do, either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 767221, member: 6875"] Okay, here's how Increased Spell Capacity works: Your Sorceror-25 has Increased Spell Capacity taken twice, right? Fine; the first one adds [b]one[/b] tenth-level spell per day, plus any bonusses you get from high Charisma. The second feat adds one [b]11th[/b] level spell per day (plus your charisma bonus, if any). You don't lose the prior benefits, each time you take Increased Spell Capacity, you get ANOTHER level of spell. By the way, 10th level slots are NOT the same as Epic spells. Of [b]course[/b] you have to take the feat!! Did you get 5th level spells when your sorceror was 1st and 2d level, just because of high charisma? Nope. Ditto for 10th and higher level spells. You only get the bonus, if you could cast at least one spell of that level [i]without your charisma bonus[/i]. No, it's not 15 times the die roll. It's 6 times the die roll -- Empower does not multiply with itself. EACH USE of that feat, gives you 50% of the rolled bonus, and [b]only[/b] 50% of the actual rolled bonus. Metamagicks [i]do not stack[/i] ... they each work based solely on the BASE spell itself. Thus, 10 Empowers is 10 times adding 50% of the base spell -- or, +500%. For a total of 600% benefit. If you rolled a 5 like you said, you would get: (5 + (2.5 x 10) =) +30 charisma. Further, to do this, would require THREE Increased Spell Capacity feats, AND the Improved Metamagic feat. Four epic feats, isn't easy to manage, even for a 28th level caster. Not impossible, but not easy to do, either. [/QUOTE]
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