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<blockquote data-quote="GuardianLurker" data-source="post: 270659" data-attributes="member: 786"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Epic Feats, not Epic Feats</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm. I understand what you're saying. However, I'd be leary of "demoting" an epic feat until a class has finished its non-epic progression.</p><p></p><p>Improved Ki Strike is an example - at 18th level, a Monk still has non-epic abilities to gain ..</p><p></p><p></p><p>In this particular case, I'd argue against it. Especially since (if you follow the progression) the next increment for Ki Strike would be 19th.</p><p></p><p>However, your case is stronger for the PrCs, since you can finish the class's non-epic progression, and still be short of the epic mark. A blackguard, for instance, will probably be 16th or 17th level when he finishes his non-epic progression. Here, he's stuck essentially "marking time" until he hits epic levels to continue progression. However, I think a better solution would probably to make the Epic Blackguard PrC available early, rather than just demoting a few of its feats. (In fact, the ELH discusses doing exactly this, IIRC.)</p><p></p><p>OTOH, those last few "filler" levels can also be used to explore aspects of the character that haven't gotten spotlighted. The Blackguard might pick up a few levels of Cleric, Rogue, or Assassin.</p><p></p><p>Aside: I interested in your opinion of my additional proposed limitations for the Improve Spellcasting Ability feat...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GuardianLurker, post: 270659, member: 786"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Epic Feats, not Epic Feats[/b] Hmm. I understand what you're saying. However, I'd be leary of "demoting" an epic feat until a class has finished its non-epic progression. Improved Ki Strike is an example - at 18th level, a Monk still has non-epic abilities to gain .. In this particular case, I'd argue against it. Especially since (if you follow the progression) the next increment for Ki Strike would be 19th. However, your case is stronger for the PrCs, since you can finish the class's non-epic progression, and still be short of the epic mark. A blackguard, for instance, will probably be 16th or 17th level when he finishes his non-epic progression. Here, he's stuck essentially "marking time" until he hits epic levels to continue progression. However, I think a better solution would probably to make the Epic Blackguard PrC available early, rather than just demoting a few of its feats. (In fact, the ELH discusses doing exactly this, IIRC.) OTOH, those last few "filler" levels can also be used to explore aspects of the character that haven't gotten spotlighted. The Blackguard might pick up a few levels of Cleric, Rogue, or Assassin. Aside: I interested in your opinion of my additional proposed limitations for the Improve Spellcasting Ability feat... [/QUOTE]
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