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<blockquote data-quote="toberane" data-source="post: 334924" data-attributes="member: 4968"><p>I don't think it's unfair to anyone. Come on, unless you created these characters at 21st level strictly to play an epic level campaign, then these are characters who have worked and slaved away to reach this level of development. Now, particularly in the case of the Barbarian, he may have most of the non-epic feats that he wants by the time he gets to 20th level, and he's a lot more likely to have prerequisites for the epic fighter feats than a Wizard 20. So, logically, if he has the combat skill and has learned the necessary prerequisites, then why shouldn't he be able to get epic feats? If game balance is your only reason, I'm gonna need proof that multiclasses taking the epic feats as bonus feats (which is how it reads in the rulebook) is unbalancing. </p><p></p><p>I don't buy that it is unfair because a newly multiclassed fighter will get more epic feats earlier in the game than a straight fighter class. It is a matter of relative power. When everyone starts out at first level, the fighter has a similar, if not more powerful, progression of feats compared to the other 1st level characters. You do realize that while everyone else is picking up their 2nd (3rd if they are human) feat at 3rd level, the fighter is picking up his fourth or fifth, depending on his character's race. This progression of feats is totally out of line with the other classes, yet it is not considered unbalancing for the low-level fighter, for some reason.</p><p></p><p>if you multiclass to fighter on your 21st level and take epic feats as your bonus feats, it is similar to the feat boost that straight fighters got at first level, only with the power of the feats advanced to equal the more powerful nature of your characters.</p><p></p><p>I went way longer than I meant to, and I'm not sure I was as clear on this point as I'd like to be. If you want any of this clarified, let me know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toberane, post: 334924, member: 4968"] I don't think it's unfair to anyone. Come on, unless you created these characters at 21st level strictly to play an epic level campaign, then these are characters who have worked and slaved away to reach this level of development. Now, particularly in the case of the Barbarian, he may have most of the non-epic feats that he wants by the time he gets to 20th level, and he's a lot more likely to have prerequisites for the epic fighter feats than a Wizard 20. So, logically, if he has the combat skill and has learned the necessary prerequisites, then why shouldn't he be able to get epic feats? If game balance is your only reason, I'm gonna need proof that multiclasses taking the epic feats as bonus feats (which is how it reads in the rulebook) is unbalancing. I don't buy that it is unfair because a newly multiclassed fighter will get more epic feats earlier in the game than a straight fighter class. It is a matter of relative power. When everyone starts out at first level, the fighter has a similar, if not more powerful, progression of feats compared to the other 1st level characters. You do realize that while everyone else is picking up their 2nd (3rd if they are human) feat at 3rd level, the fighter is picking up his fourth or fifth, depending on his character's race. This progression of feats is totally out of line with the other classes, yet it is not considered unbalancing for the low-level fighter, for some reason. if you multiclass to fighter on your 21st level and take epic feats as your bonus feats, it is similar to the feat boost that straight fighters got at first level, only with the power of the feats advanced to equal the more powerful nature of your characters. I went way longer than I meant to, and I'm not sure I was as clear on this point as I'd like to be. If you want any of this clarified, let me know. [/QUOTE]
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