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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Belzamus" data-source="post: 4816886" data-attributes="member: 61612">For some reason the concept reminds be vaguely of the Ur-Priest in the Book of Vile Darkness, the actual abilities, not the flavor behind them. Also, when balancing, keep in mind the Void Incarnate class that's free on Wizards' site (just google Void Incarnate) as it is, right now, THE premier rogue Epic PrC, allowing sneak attacks on every hit and a slew of awesome immunites. This class would need to be as good as that, at the least, if not better. It's more or less undetectable too, so it kind of covers the epic "stealth" role. The other problem with designing these is to avoid overlapping with abilities that are granted by feats in Ascension, since there's so many of them. I've never built an epic rogue so I'm not to familiar with what they get from Ascension, but I'll try and take a look.  Any idea how the class would interact with Assassin either? What if you had, say, a rogue 3/Wizard 6/Assassin 6/Arcane Trickster 10 going into this? Could the class possibly advance both types of spellcasting? O add the Assassin list to the wizard's? Just a thought. For Arcane Death Strike...how about you add the level of the spell you expend as a free action to the DC of the Death Attack? (Though that sounds almost non-epic). Deliver Death Attacks as part of a spell? If the target makes their save they take 1d10 damage per your CL? I don't know, I'm just throwing stuff out there. How about an ability to expend a spell slot to get Xd6 to all Sneak Attacks for that round? (9th level=+9d6) For a chasis, would you still be looking at d6 HD and medium attack bonus? Obviously advancing Arcane Spellcasting every level too. I don't know, for some reason it seems like you could build this kind of character well enough even without a specified prestige class. It's gonna have to give some HUGE benefits to make it more attractive than Void Incarnate (which has no Sneak Attack progression, but there's an Epic Feat to mitigate that). It should probably focus very heavily on integrating arcane spellcasting into sneaky abilities, it's just hard to think of good ideas for that concept. How about allowing Rogue levels to stack for Arcane Caster Level? Or maybe adding in the number of SA dice to it instead? We need a name too. Any ideas? Occultist? Shadow Sage? Umbra? I think there should be a variant for Warlock/Rogues too, since that's an awesome combination.</blockquote>

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