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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8630222" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>and when you change a 1st level anything to an 11th level anything that is a 10 level change... and a goblin to a giant is a pretty big change too. what I am showing with the 1st level goblin is that you are NOT on a treadmill you are advancing... </p><p></p><p>now some advice was badly written and the treadmill may have been incouraged (WotC felt a 1st level goblin should never be faced by a 12th level PC) but it still isn't a treadmill becuse you are going after a range still... controlers and soldiers had diffrent stats even at the same level, and again level +/- 3 or 4 was encouraged... so at 12th level you could run into a 9th level -15th level threat and at 1st you run into 1st-4th level threats... but you still are not on a treadmill the 15th level threat is MUCH deadlier then teh 4th</p><p></p><p>and we can give out will power pts that you can spend to give auto successes and refill when you play your character flaws (wod) but that isn't the game we are talking about</p><p></p><p>500 no, I would argue a basic MM should have 5-10 threats of each CR from 1/4 to 25. later the DM can home brew or you can buy additional MMs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8630222, member: 67338"] and when you change a 1st level anything to an 11th level anything that is a 10 level change... and a goblin to a giant is a pretty big change too. what I am showing with the 1st level goblin is that you are NOT on a treadmill you are advancing... now some advice was badly written and the treadmill may have been incouraged (WotC felt a 1st level goblin should never be faced by a 12th level PC) but it still isn't a treadmill becuse you are going after a range still... controlers and soldiers had diffrent stats even at the same level, and again level +/- 3 or 4 was encouraged... so at 12th level you could run into a 9th level -15th level threat and at 1st you run into 1st-4th level threats... but you still are not on a treadmill the 15th level threat is MUCH deadlier then teh 4th and we can give out will power pts that you can spend to give auto successes and refill when you play your character flaws (wod) but that isn't the game we are talking about 500 no, I would argue a basic MM should have 5-10 threats of each CR from 1/4 to 25. later the DM can home brew or you can buy additional MMs [/QUOTE]
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