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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 657276" data-attributes="member: 4036">I think you greatly overestimate the value of melee epic feats at the 21-25 level range.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; While epic weapon focus is great, I can do better than +1 to hit with a host of non epic feats.&nbsp; And the dc's for the critical death feats are pathetic.&nbsp; There is very little by way of feats that would encourage me to take straight fighter levels post 20th level.No one has a good offensive melee fighter suggestion for 21-25 that can compete with epic casters?DR is nice, but it doesn't affect anything but physical damage as it states in the ability description.&nbsp; High hit points makes it even better, but as we've got a dragon in the party, saves and hitpoints are not going to be areas a human is going to compete in.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The ftr/pal/templar/divine champion build is a great defensive build, but unless you want a shield charge or spirited charge divine might multiplier, it has little by way of offense.&nbsp; I'm looking for something that does epic damage each swing and will actually case epic spellcasters to fear him getting within range of a full attack action, rather than just know that their AC or spell protections, will protect them from anything a measly warrior could possibly come up with.The thing a fighter can bring to the table at this level of play is inexhaustable, dependable, consistent damage.&nbsp; Now the problem is how to make that damage something that is respectable for epic level play...And their just really aren't any good feat or prestige class or special ability chains that lend themselves to increasing damage output save maybe the barbarian/tribal defender/frenzied berserker avenue that boosts number of attacks and strength to epic proportions.Am I missing something or are the melee prestige classes out there really that offensively uninspiring?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeremy, post: 657276, member: 4036"] I think you greatly overestimate the value of melee epic feats at the 21-25 level range. :) While epic weapon focus is great, I can do better than +1 to hit with a host of non epic feats. And the dc's for the critical death feats are pathetic. There is very little by way of feats that would encourage me to take straight fighter levels post 20th level. No one has a good offensive melee fighter suggestion for 21-25 that can compete with epic casters? DR is nice, but it doesn't affect anything but physical damage as it states in the ability description. High hit points makes it even better, but as we've got a dragon in the party, saves and hitpoints are not going to be areas a human is going to compete in. :) The ftr/pal/templar/divine champion build is a great defensive build, but unless you want a shield charge or spirited charge divine might multiplier, it has little by way of offense. I'm looking for something that does epic damage each swing and will actually case epic spellcasters to fear him getting within range of a full attack action, rather than just know that their AC or spell protections, will protect them from anything a measly warrior could possibly come up with. The thing a fighter can bring to the table at this level of play is inexhaustable, dependable, consistent damage. Now the problem is how to make that damage something that is respectable for epic level play... And their just really aren't any good feat or prestige class or special ability chains that lend themselves to increasing damage output save maybe the barbarian/tribal defender/frenzied berserker avenue that boosts number of attacks and strength to epic proportions. Am I missing something or are the melee prestige classes out there really that offensively uninspiring? [/QUOTE]

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