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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 258807" data-attributes="member: 172"><p><strong>Re: Silly and Irrational..</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And you are being insulting and reactionary.</p><p></p><p>Do you care to quote sections you disagree with when attempting to rebutt them, because you don't seem to be rebutting anything I am saying here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure it does. That doesn't make it "not bland." It's a tool, just like the PHB is a tool. But we are experienced with weaving stories around the level of power presented in the PHB... we, the GMs, breathe life into the games. We have a bit more of a challenge when it comes to the ELH, because we don't have that experience to lean on. We pretty much have to figure out what works and what doesn't from scratch.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay... I don't see how we differ here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My fallacious notion? That's rather insulting. Do you care to tell me in what way it is flawed.</p><p></p><p>I am assuming that you are referring to my analysis of the respective character and monster sections of the ELH. Those sections were written by two different people and have entirely different purposes, and each bears scrutiny for potential weaknesses and shortfalls. And FYI (since you seem to be missing this point) I wasn't deriding either section.</p><p></p><p>So again, just how is my analysis flawed? I'm waiting? You'll have to do better than such a vague unsupported assertion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oooh. A statement that I can atucally trace back to what I said. Now we're cooking.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Caps? What's with the attitude? Plus mispelling along with the caps--it sounds like you are getting a little worked up. You might just want to settle down and reread my post... I'm not assailing the book in the way you think I am.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well despite the fact I traced it back, I am really unsure what you are trying to say here. It sounds like you think I am blasting ELH because you aren't challenged by the same creatures. </p><p></p><p>That is not what I am saying at all. Reread my post. I really don't have a problem with the nature of the creatures in the ELH. The ELH extends this with more appropriate threats, and I don't have a problem with that (in fact, I have praised the monster section of the book multiple times in this thread, so if that is what you think, you really aren't paying attention.)</p><p></p><p>I am saying that the fact that we are in unfamiliar territory makes the ELH seems more "soulless" than the core books, when really it is not. I am making a statement about the challenges inherent to using this book for experienced GMs, and following it up with a statement on how it can be useful.</p><p></p><p>So, I'll just stop here, let you reread my post from the angle it was written instead of reading a bash into it -- that's not my style, and if you think it is, then you don't know my style as you imply you do. Once you are done with that, and get the jist of what I am really trying to say, then we'll talk.</p><p></p><p>I await your response.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 258807, member: 172"] [b]Re: Silly and Irrational..[/b] And you are being insulting and reactionary. Do you care to quote sections you disagree with when attempting to rebutt them, because you don't seem to be rebutting anything I am saying here. Sure it does. That doesn't make it "not bland." It's a tool, just like the PHB is a tool. But we are experienced with weaving stories around the level of power presented in the PHB... we, the GMs, breathe life into the games. We have a bit more of a challenge when it comes to the ELH, because we don't have that experience to lean on. We pretty much have to figure out what works and what doesn't from scratch. Okay... I don't see how we differ here. My fallacious notion? That's rather insulting. Do you care to tell me in what way it is flawed. I am assuming that you are referring to my analysis of the respective character and monster sections of the ELH. Those sections were written by two different people and have entirely different purposes, and each bears scrutiny for potential weaknesses and shortfalls. And FYI (since you seem to be missing this point) I wasn't deriding either section. So again, just how is my analysis flawed? I'm waiting? You'll have to do better than such a vague unsupported assertion. Oooh. A statement that I can atucally trace back to what I said. Now we're cooking. Caps? What's with the attitude? Plus mispelling along with the caps--it sounds like you are getting a little worked up. You might just want to settle down and reread my post... I'm not assailing the book in the way you think I am. Well despite the fact I traced it back, I am really unsure what you are trying to say here. It sounds like you think I am blasting ELH because you aren't challenged by the same creatures. That is not what I am saying at all. Reread my post. I really don't have a problem with the nature of the creatures in the ELH. The ELH extends this with more appropriate threats, and I don't have a problem with that (in fact, I have praised the monster section of the book multiple times in this thread, so if that is what you think, you really aren't paying attention.) I am saying that the fact that we are in unfamiliar territory makes the ELH seems more "soulless" than the core books, when really it is not. I am making a statement about the challenges inherent to using this book for experienced GMs, and following it up with a statement on how it can be useful. So, I'll just stop here, let you reread my post from the angle it was written instead of reading a bash into it -- that's not my style, and if you think it is, then you don't know my style as you imply you do. Once you are done with that, and get the jist of what I am really trying to say, then we'll talk. I await your response. [/QUOTE]
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