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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 258875" data-attributes="member: 172">Re: Psion...How is it arbitrary? I know what appealed to me, I know what didn't.Once again, you are trying to assign a position to me I do not hold. It's not at all that I think that the gameplay aspects of these things will be off, at least once GMs have a good notion of how to use them. Rather, I am saying that a lot of old assumptions about how to build a enthralling, challengign campaign will be changed by the resources and relative power available to characters in this book, and that will be something of a learning curve for GMs.Again you refuse to provide specifics about how I am "bemoaning" the nature of the book in play. Quote me, damnit! Otherwise, you are summarizing my thoughts and putting your own spin on them. You have totally misconstrued me, and refuse to back your own position up and address my actual position. Prime example: you still insist that I am bashing the ELH even after I have specifically denied doing so.So be a man and back up your position. Tell me EXACTLY what I said that you think is wrong and why you think it is wrong. Dealing with generalities is not productive to understanding our relative positions.And if you can't, if you find that once you read through my statements and find that the message that you thought was there is not, be a man and admit that you are wrong.I am still waiting...It's not a must, and nor did I ever say it was -- once again, you are reading into my statements, so please refrain from trying to get me to defend things I never said. It's a "would've been nice."Then explain to me why they bother putting in sections that discuss properly challenging PCs at that level. The authors obviously know that there are fundamental differences in play at this level. Why are you denying it?Indeed it does... and I never said otherwise. See my statement above: we have to figure out for ourselves what works and what doesn't. But I would rather avoid somoe of the pratfalls and attendant wasted nights of learning how the epic level rules work in play by trial and error. Those "errors" can be really annoying, even campaign wrecking.Sorry, you're entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine. They seem functional, but they certainly didn't excite me. Not that I am saying that they should have--like I said, its a tool. Like I said, we should view this as a tool.Notice how the other posters who feel the need to defend the book (despite the fact I do not feel I am attacking it, per se) have not denied that it is "soulless."I do not understand your point here.When did I state that? You just can't help yourself from using insults and vague generalities as part of your argument, can't you? Just how is my perspective limited, pray tell?</blockquote>

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