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<blockquote data-quote="Cloudgatherer" data-source="post: 297861" data-attributes="member: 66">Here's a simple example of what I mean.&nbsp; Take Hellball, for example.&nbsp; It has a DC of 90 (to cast) and does (essentially) 50d6 damage (max damage 300, resistance, immunities, saves all apply).This spell requires a character in the low 60's to cast.&nbsp; Same character could get a couple of metamagic/spell capacity feats, and use one Intensified Meteor Swarm, which would deal more damage (288), no save, no resistances apply.Take Vengeful Gaze of God:&nbsp; It needs a DC of 419 to cast, deals 305d6 damage to a foe.&nbsp; This character likely needs to be in the 300's (Wiz300+) to cast the spell.&nbsp; I'm betting a level 300 wizard can dish out more damage without using this spell....At least where dealing damage applies, Epic spells don't seem worth the trouble (granted, the other stuff is pretty neat, hard to compare against the core spells).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cloudgatherer, post: 297861, member: 66"] Here's a simple example of what I mean. Take Hellball, for example. It has a DC of 90 (to cast) and does (essentially) 50d6 damage (max damage 300, resistance, immunities, saves all apply). This spell requires a character in the low 60's to cast. Same character could get a couple of metamagic/spell capacity feats, and use one Intensified Meteor Swarm, which would deal more damage (288), no save, no resistances apply. Take Vengeful Gaze of God: It needs a DC of 419 to cast, deals 305d6 damage to a foe. This character likely needs to be in the 300's (Wiz300+) to cast the spell. I'm betting a level 300 wizard can dish out more damage without using this spell.... At least where dealing damage applies, Epic spells don't seem worth the trouble (granted, the other stuff is pretty neat, hard to compare against the core spells). [/QUOTE]

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