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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 397424" data-attributes="member: 2829">While I understand where both of you are coming from, I gotta back up mikebr99 on this one. I think the point he was trying to make is that you would like to limit your player's &quot;abnormal&quot; epic characters to &quot;normal&quot; stats within an &quot;abnormal&quot; world that is filled with &quot;abnormal&quot; creatures, and all of it resides within a &quot;fantasy&quot;, or &quot;abnormal&quot;, game.Quite simply, realism destroys d20.But it's not like Batman at all, not even by a stretch of the imagination. The big difference between D&amp;D and Batman is that humans in D&amp;D have no limits at all. If you want limits, perhaps D&amp;D isn't the right system for you.Like others suggested, you could make feats that give the benefits of high stats without you needing to have the high stat, but what would be the point of that? If you can get the benefits of a 30 strength, why not have a 30 strength?I'm not chastising or anything. I'm just moving the discussion along. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />By the way, this really needs to be in House Rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 397424, member: 2829"] While I understand where both of you are coming from, I gotta back up mikebr99 on this one. I think the point he was trying to make is that you would like to limit your player's "abnormal" epic characters to "normal" stats within an "abnormal" world that is filled with "abnormal" creatures, and all of it resides within a "fantasy", or "abnormal", game. Quite simply, realism destroys d20. But it's not like Batman at all, not even by a stretch of the imagination. The big difference between D&D and Batman is that humans in D&D have no limits at all. If you want limits, perhaps D&D isn't the right system for you. Like others suggested, you could make feats that give the benefits of high stats without you needing to have the high stat, but what would be the point of that? If you can get the benefits of a 30 strength, why not have a 30 strength? I'm not chastising or anything. I'm just moving the discussion along. :) By the way, this really needs to be in [b]House Rules[/b]. [/QUOTE]

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