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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zarrock God of Evil" data-source="post: 260169" data-attributes="member: 2025">Re: Re: Epic Levels from another PerspectiveYes - if they are human it doesn't make much sense. In that case what did they do? Scour the planes for the greatest champions of a hundred worlds to enlist them in their service and then make sure the don't die of old age?I think I'll use Union - but definitely not with human guards...That makes a lot more sense - I do understand, however, that the design teams are reluctant to do this as it'll trigger the old "why don't the old races just take over the world". But when one thinks of - for instance - a Dwarven swordsmith. During the first few hundreds years of his life he'll hone his skills within his trade tremendously and probably also serve in the clan militia and go toe-to-toe with some fairly formidable foes along the way. Even this fairly average, middle-aged Dwarven smith would probably have sth like 3-5 levels of fighter (depending on the number of wars/battles the clan is engaged in - and how many required his presence) and probably at least that in the Expert (smith) class.  Needless to say, members of such long-lived races will have a much larger average chance of reaching epic levels when even their non-adventuring population can easily reach levels most humans never even approach. -Zarrock</blockquote>