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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3045539" data-attributes="member: 4303">The problem here is that the root spell is no longer bull's strength - it is a hypothetical 5th-level greater bull's strength which has different level caps and a different initial bonus (+10 vs. +4). The same applies to the other roots (subseeds? subroots? nodules?)Bear in mind that I'm aiming for maximum transparency here, and I'm really trying to avoid non-core spells. I'm not saying its not logical or necessarily unbalanced. It just doesn't sit within the design parameters of the system I'm trying to achieve.And that's not to say that I'm unwilling to change the design parameters, either. It might be desirable for the root spell to be more 'representative', rather than directly inform the Spellcraft Prerequisite. It makes extrapolation of new seeds somewhat harder, though.If you base it directly off of bull's strength (at SP 8 instead of SP 14) with the same factor progression (+1 per +2 SP) it will net you 3 points less to your ability score. I think that the transparency here is worth it, unless there is a really compelling balance argument to suggest that an SP 24 spell should grant a +15 enhancement bonus to Str rather than +12; or why an SP 50 spell should grant you +28 instead of +25. I agree with the principle and the progression (I made changes to fortify earlier today), but I think the initial bonus should be +2 not +5, for the same reasons as noted above. Same issues with barkskin and stoneskin.No problem here  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> It's a shame that greater heroism conflates temporary hp and [fear] immunity with its +4 bonus as well as having a 1 min/level (as opposed to 10 min/level) duration. It's sor/wiz 6 or bard 5. Whilst I'd be comfortable equating it without the temp hp and [fear] immunity at sor/wiz 5 and a 20 minute duration, it's still a hypothetical spell. +1 per +2 SP is certainly viable, though - I'm inclined to snag that. Even though +1 per +3 SP is based on the gap between heroism and greater heroism it seems overly punitive.Superior resistance (6th level, SC: p. 174) grants a +6 resistance bonus to saves for 24 hrs. This one is a morale bonus which lasts 20 mins. Seems OK - they're stackable so +1 per 2 SP looks fair.Skill checks are fine, as Spellcraft was only ever the problem, anyway.Your 20-minute true strike now has a USP of 42.Though if you're going to split the provision into attack, saving throws and skill check bonuses, maybe you should go the whole hog and make them insight bonuses, resistance bonuses and competence bonuses respectively. amen.</blockquote>

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