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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3047129" data-attributes="member: 4303">I had thought one or the other, not both - hence the 'as opposed to'. Should've been more explicit. There is no way that I'd allow both of these. Same occurred to me. You could limit the number of spell slots which syneresis allows as a function of Spellcraft ranks, though.I've thought about this, as well - not necessarily half, but some other function of total Spellcraft ranks. I think 50% is overly restrictive. The biggest problem is engineering some system which limits the cabal contribution, which is why I've been thinking about a nonlinear relationship between spell slots contributed vs. total mitigating factor.I have been here exactly before - but when I was trying to modify the Spellcraft check system, rather than base factors off of seeds with a more stable DC/Prerequisite. I haven't revisited the idea for a while.My biggest concern was the precedent (doublings, triplings, quadruplings), which is why I considered a set of static factors e.g.increase area by 100% +4increase area by 250% +8increase area by 500%  +12increase arae by 1000% +20increase area by 2500% +30increase area by 5000% +40increase area by 10,000% +50or whatever. You get the idea.After a 10000% increase in area (ie. a 2000ft. radius fireball), you use aggregates (in this case Magical Weather) for truly awesome effects. Although as written, Magical Weather can't be used with instantaneous effects.I actually don't have a problem with massive area effects, as an improved invisible 6th level wizard with a wand of fireballs who can fly can already level a small town pretty quickly: all it takes is a scroll and a partially-charged wand. Your highest level local opposition might be a 6th level cleric - if you're unlucky. Killing 2000 people in 1 minute is easy.So what, if you can obliterate 100 square miles of countryside? Encounters aren't balanced on this basis - really, its campaign backstory. After your 2-mile radius fire storm hits, all you've done is kill a lot of mooks: you might get some arbitrary story bonus to XP, but the BBEG is still there laughing off the damage.I think if we go this route, there needs to be a pretty solid philosophical justification in the way epic games are handled, though. A lot of people will cry 'foul' and 'overpowered', but, for me, this is exactly the kind of thing epic play should be about.</blockquote>

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