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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3059261" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>One other thought- would you allow non-epic mages to research spells of levels 10 and higher to cast with their higher spell slots? If we use the (somewhat arbitary) rule of Spell level = 6 + (USP/6) it means that 42 USP translates to a 13th level spell. Although the base save DC would be 23+ability mod instead of 20+ability mod, the spell would be otherwise identical.</p><p></p><p>My thought is that if Jacobean spells are better than conventional casters' metamagicked spells, that might just mean that conventional casters have to research a spell rather than rely on metamagic. Which is far from unprecedented; an 8th level spell is often better than a 4th level spell metamagicked to fit an 8th level spell slot, so why shouldn't the same be true at spell levels above 9th?</p><p></p><p>[edit]</p><p></p><p>Upper_Krust has floated the idea that the ability prerequisite for epic spells should be 10 + 2 * level, and you need to have at least 2 HD per spell level. So to cast a 13th level spell you'd need to have at least 26 HD (no problem) and a 36 Intelligence (difficult, but possible). You need feats to get spell slots above 9th, of course.</p><p></p><p>[edit2]</p><p>Hmmm. Though I suppose someone would have to be a Herald of the Eschaton in order to research one of those spells. Why don't you drop Epic Spellcasting from the prerequisites so that valent spellcasters can get easier access to it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 3059261, member: 141"] One other thought- would you allow non-epic mages to research spells of levels 10 and higher to cast with their higher spell slots? If we use the (somewhat arbitary) rule of Spell level = 6 + (USP/6) it means that 42 USP translates to a 13th level spell. Although the base save DC would be 23+ability mod instead of 20+ability mod, the spell would be otherwise identical. My thought is that if Jacobean spells are better than conventional casters' metamagicked spells, that might just mean that conventional casters have to research a spell rather than rely on metamagic. Which is far from unprecedented; an 8th level spell is often better than a 4th level spell metamagicked to fit an 8th level spell slot, so why shouldn't the same be true at spell levels above 9th? [edit] Upper_Krust has floated the idea that the ability prerequisite for epic spells should be 10 + 2 * level, and you need to have at least 2 HD per spell level. So to cast a 13th level spell you'd need to have at least 26 HD (no problem) and a 36 Intelligence (difficult, but possible). You need feats to get spell slots above 9th, of course. [edit2] Hmmm. Though I suppose someone would have to be a Herald of the Eschaton in order to research one of those spells. Why don't you drop Epic Spellcasting from the prerequisites so that valent spellcasters can get easier access to it? [/QUOTE]
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