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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3060742" data-attributes="member: 4303">Re: Epic ability-buffing magic items and Save DCs.Is +12 considered to be the upper limit, or are they assumed to scale ad infinitum?  If one assumes that up to 25% of PC wealth is sunk into the headband of epic intellect, (c.f. the 17th-level NPC wizard in possession of a +6 headband of intellect who has invested 36/100 of his wealth into the item), then a 39th-level character (12.3Mgp) should really be assumed to possess at least a headband of intellect +16: this would translate to a +2 increase to save DCs across the board; also with an Int of 46, access to a bonus 18th-level slot becomes possible. Assume such a character has invested his epic feats thus: Improved Spell Capacity (x8), Intensify Spell, Improved Heighten Spell, Multispell, Improved Metamagic (x2). He has SF and GSF.His disintegrate can be heightened to 12th-level and then Intensified (DC 42). He can heighten 1 more disintegrate to 12th-level, Quicken and Maximize it, and shoot it off, followed by a Heightened Quickened Empowered Disintegrate for good measure. 930 points with a DC of 42 seems pretty decent.60/40 chances of Saving for the median Fort save of your epic selection. If the character has an epic headband of intellect +20 (32% of his wealth) this rises to 50/50.Anyway, the black slaad might well go down (512 damage average), the atropal goes down (only saves on a 20). Disintegrate isn't the best choice against a 500-foot tall tree, but that shouldn't surprise anyone. Intensified energy drain should knock it down a peg or two, followed by Quickened Heightened finger of death.BTW, have you been referencing the 3.5 updated stats for monsters in the ELH? I know I haven't. I should probably look at them.</blockquote>

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