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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3084840" data-attributes="member: 141">Flame strike appears to have been designed at a time when wizards were the ones with effective damaging spells; it seems to have been nerfed a little.  Though druids get it as a 4th level spell.  For analyzing spells I use full metamagic levels, including heighten, then convert to SP by doubling, and finally treat 1 (real) spell level as 6 SP.So fireball + half-enhanced (+2 levels) + heightened (+2 levels) + reduced range (-1 level) + half divine damage (+X/2) = flamestrike.  Two levels at 6 SP/level is 12.  3 + X/2 levels = 12  means X = 18 SP.  Which is way too high if typeless damage is +10 SP.If flamestrike were 4th level (as it is for druids), then divine damage would be +6 SP, which is possible, but seems a little low.  So between +6 and +18.  Kinda a wide margin of error. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />[edit] Screwed up the math; 3 + X/2 levels is 6 + X SP = 12, so X = 6.  That's for the cleric.For the druid, there is less heightening, so 2 + X/2 level is 4 + X SP = 6, or X = 2.  And that's too low.  +6 SP looks good, but I'm inclined to agree that +8 SP for true typeless damage is enough. [/edit]Are there any special rules or restrictions on divine damage, or is it just a nice name for typeless?  If it is effectively typeless, then make it +10.Fire storm has a 1 round casting time, but instantaneous duration.</blockquote>

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