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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3134375" data-attributes="member: 4303">I hope a solution to rays is within sight - the original ELH costed the change from a targeted to a ray effect at +4 DC, and automatically replaced the save w/ a ranged touch attack. Given the reliability of ranged touch attacks at these levels, it was a no-brainer for most spells.Maybe rays should be restricted to [blast], [harrow] and [destroy] no matter what. With x2 USP on a no-save version which would normally prompt a save. They're not 100% fool-proof (ranged touch), even then. And I think that no-save spells should be restricted to rays - barring esoterica such as power word and blasphemy. If a feat were required to unlock the potential of these esoteric seeds, we could be pretty generous about provisions within them.I see what you're saying about the order of operations in [blast]. Let's go with +2d6/+1SP (it only took me a month to get there!). We could use one of your suggested techniques to limit access to the exponential factor:e.g. Factor (restricted): If you have 30 or more ranks in Spellcraft, you may empower a spell develpoed with this seed to deal 50% more damage than the base damage. Increase the Spellcraft Prerequisite by +8. This factor stacks.C.f. a suggested general ruling regarding seed combinations, maybe implied rather than explicit (I don't remember):A compound spell has a minimum Spellcraft Prerequisite of 24 plus 6 for each additional seed which it contains beyond the first.There is a resonance here. Level 27 becomes a definite break-point. As it does for the pure AMC caster: 5 free metamagic levels is equal to empower+maximize any spell at will.If level 33 becomes the next break-point, and it does - AMC-man can now automaxempowerquicken his spells, access to a 3rd seed in a spell is gained for the jacobean - then another technique could be added to [blast]:Factor (restricted): If you have 36 or more ranks in Spellcraft, you may maximize spells with this seed so that each die of damage deals maximum damage. To maximize a spell developed with [blast], increase the Spellcraft Prerequisite by +12. Each additional 100% of the base damage increases the Spellcraft Prerequisite by +12.I also think we should remove the cumulative +3 Spellcraft Prerequisite from the basic feats. I sense they are sufficiently balanced without. Assuming AMC is OK.Sorry it's taken so long for me to reach here, I needed multiple points of corroboration. I think we should apply special scrutiny every 6th level above 21st, to determine balance issues. We can engineer a lot of mechanics to bring things back into line (or a measured distance ahead of it) with regard to the AMC curve: namely access to exponential or special factors, and access to feats with Spellcraft Prerequisites of 30, 36 and 42.Hopefully we can keep the seed generalist, the seed specialist and the metamagic specialist all on the same page.</blockquote>

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