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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 3136782" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>More on [Blast]</p><p></p><p>We should go for a 30d6 [blast] with a 1SP/+1d6 factor; it's what you'd expect the cap on a 10th-level spell to be, following the nonepic progression of direct-damage area spells. It feels right.</p><p></p><p>That'd be SP 50, kernel-style. It can't technically be double-enhanced to 30d6 (as all epic spells assume CL 20), and it can't technically be empowered-enhanced (because otherwise it would be a 2SP/+3d6 factor). I think we can gloss the ambiguity for the sake of playability, though.</p><p></p><p>We should double the area: bigger, but not too big.</p><p>We should include cones and cylinders, let the caster choose the shape at the moment of casting, and include a mitigating factor to set it during development.</p><p></p><p>I suggest we retain the empower factor, but pare back the seed's base damage (strange how that goes). </p><p></p><p>How does that sound? Is AMC at -2, or does it still need to be -1?</p><p></p><p>Were you using +8 in your calculations for empower?</p><p></p><p>Sorry my math isn't up to this. I'm pretty good for a liberal-arts kind of guy, but this is beyond me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>As far as I can see, with every feat AMC (except Epic Spellcasting at 21st), the jacobean does 8 empowers (150d6) at level 50 if AMC = -2; and 6 empowers (120d6) if AMC =-1. This assumes empower is a +8 factor.</p><p></p><p><s>The metamagic specialist (AMC x13, MF x7) can empower his <em>dbf</em> 8 times for 100d6. And any other spells below 8th level he feels like, for that matter.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>The jacobean gets the benefit of AMC applied to his/her nonepic spells, but hasn't taken IM in this model, so utility is limited (you need MF to apply the same metamagic feat twice, right?). Once per day (with her one epic spell slot) she can cast a 150d6 <em>fireball</em>.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>I'm not seeing a problem with this.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p></p><p>Edit: changed IM to MF. Minor edit.</p><p></p><p>Edit: misunderstood MF.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 3136782, member: 4303"] More on [Blast] We should go for a 30d6 [blast] with a 1SP/+1d6 factor; it's what you'd expect the cap on a 10th-level spell to be, following the nonepic progression of direct-damage area spells. It feels right. That'd be SP 50, kernel-style. It can't technically be double-enhanced to 30d6 (as all epic spells assume CL 20), and it can't technically be empowered-enhanced (because otherwise it would be a 2SP/+3d6 factor). I think we can gloss the ambiguity for the sake of playability, though. We should double the area: bigger, but not too big. We should include cones and cylinders, let the caster choose the shape at the moment of casting, and include a mitigating factor to set it during development. I suggest we retain the empower factor, but pare back the seed's base damage (strange how that goes). How does that sound? Is AMC at -2, or does it still need to be -1? Were you using +8 in your calculations for empower? Sorry my math isn't up to this. I'm pretty good for a liberal-arts kind of guy, but this is beyond me :p As far as I can see, with every feat AMC (except Epic Spellcasting at 21st), the jacobean does 8 empowers (150d6) at level 50 if AMC = -2; and 6 empowers (120d6) if AMC =-1. This assumes empower is a +8 factor. [S]The metamagic specialist (AMC x13, MF x7) can empower his [I]dbf[/I] 8 times for 100d6. And any other spells below 8th level he feels like, for that matter. The jacobean gets the benefit of AMC applied to his/her nonepic spells, but hasn't taken IM in this model, so utility is limited (you need MF to apply the same metamagic feat twice, right?). Once per day (with her one epic spell slot) she can cast a 150d6 [I]fireball[/I]. I'm not seeing a problem with this. [/S] Edit: changed IM to MF. Minor edit. Edit: misunderstood MF. [/QUOTE]
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